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Oregon to Idaho?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/oregon-counties-vote-to-secede-into-idaho_3822536.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-05-20&mktids=63bb1a3cfcb440bc19e3b5f915cca131&est=yxb24PZQthnTpb74Cry3AcLZFfs4oJhekWimPWaDvMvpVyneJ9kMEe%2BxsLWDnz8%3D

    Several counties in Oregon on May 18 voted to consider joining the state of Idaho, which is part of a long-shot movement to break away from the state that has long been dominated by politicians in Portland.

    Voters in Malheur, Sherman, Grant, Baker, and Lake counties approved various measures that require county officials to take steps to look into moving the Idaho border west to incorporate the counties.

    The grassroots group Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho is aiming to have the eastern counties—which are mostly rural—join Idaho because they believe they would be better off with Idaho’s more conservative political leadership.

    “This election proves that rural Oregon wants out of Oregon,” lead petitioner Mike McCarter said in a statement to local media outlets on May 18. “If Oregon really believes in liberal values such as self-determination, the Legislature won’t hold our counties captive against our will. If we’re allowed to vote for which government officials we want, we should be allowed to vote for which government we want as well.”

    McCarter told the Oregonian last year that the bid to join Idaho is more of a “lifestyle/values judgment” that separates rural and urban residents.

    Oregon’s Jefferson and Union counties already approved measures last year to promote a move to Idaho. Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho petitioners also want to absorb some counties in Northern California, which are also mostly rural.

    Idaho Gov. Brad Little, a Republican, told Fox News last year that some Oregonians are “looking at Idaho fondly because of our regulatory atmosphere” and “our values.”

    The bid, however, appears to be a long shot as it would require a formal vote in the Democratic-controlled Oregon legislature. If that goes through, Oregon and Idaho would have to come up with a deal, which would then have to be ratified by the U.S. Congress.

    Throughout the history of the United States, changing state lines has been a rare occurrence—all taking place before the 20th century. In 1792, Kentucky was created from Virginia’s territory, Maine was created from Massachusetts in 1820, and West Virginia in 1863 was admitted into the United States when Union states and counties separated themselves from the Confederate ones during the Civil War.

    Voters in Oregon’s Harney and Douglas counties will hold a vote on similar measures in upcoming elections.

    McCarter told media outlets that Idaho state Reps. Barbara Ehardt and Judy Boyle, both Republicans, are planning to introduce a bill about a possible relocation of the Idaho–Oregon border in January 2022.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      Assuming the counties have sufficient citizen backing, what, exactly, is the process?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        Reminds me of the discussion we had a while back about the USA splitting into two countries and if one could survive without the other.

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Would it not be easier for these citizens to just relocate to Idaho?

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          • L Offline
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            Loki
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            Less than 2% of the population of Oregon, just to provide context.

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            • George KG Offline
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              https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/05/five-oregon-counties-vote-in-favor-of-seceding-from-the-state.php

              The ballot measures don’t even call for secession. They merely call on lawmakers to consider the idea.

              The Washington Post observes that for the departure from Oregon to occur, lawmakers in Oregon and Idaho would have to enact bills to redefine the states’ boundaries and redistrict their legislatures. They likely would also have to muster the votes needed to override a veto from the respective governors. Finally, Congress would have to sign off on the move.

              The odds against all of this happening seem overwhelming.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Right, next the royals will move to LA

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