Would somebody shut this idiot up?

[Horace]

Good case in point for historical examples being used as non sequitur rhetoric to support a personal bias.

[George K]

@horace said in Would somebody shut this idiot up?:

Good case in point for historical examples being used as non sequitur rhetoric to support a personal bias.

Thanks for typing slowly.

I got that comment.

[Jolly]

@mik said in Would somebody shut this idiot up?:

No. Something approaching equality will only happen when those who feel disenfranchised decide to join the dominant culture instead of being a resentful self-segregated group.

Melting pots work.

[Mik]

Yes, it does. Ax’s view is still paternalistic and therefore wrong both practically and morally. I’ll address it later.

[Mik]

I could go into a convoluted, unsupported, Ax-like response but I won't.

I didn't set preconditions. It is simply my opinion that until other cultures are willing to assimilate they will remain separate and to some degree disadvantaged. It weakens our nation.

Ax thinks we the 'privileged', can bestow equality on minorities. That's paternalistic and condescending. Plantation thinking, the bigotry of low expectation.

[Aqua Letifer]

@george-k said in Would somebody shut this idiot up?:

The man is probably a very well qualified (and well-connected) immunologist. He's been in government since the Reagan era.

As far as I know, he has no training in public policy, etc.

He's (again) out of his lane.

Like a certain steak, vodka, and failed university peddler I've heard about that everyone seems to idolize.

[Aqua Letifer]

@axtremus said in Would somebody shut this idiot up?:

Have the ones who feel disenfranchised to join the dominant culture? History gave us many examples where that would have been suboptimal if not outright wrong, some these examples have been given in my prevoius comment.

Wow, Ax, I had no idea you were a "separate but equal" kinda guy.

[Jolly]

@aqua-letifer said in Would somebody shut this idiot up?:

@george-k said in Would somebody shut this idiot up?:

The man is probably a very well qualified (and well-connected) immunologist. He's been in government since the Reagan era.

As far as I know, he has no training in public policy, etc.

He's (again) out of his lane.

Like a certain steak, vodka, and failed university peddler I've heard about that everyone seems to idolize.

Bullshit.. Get your head out of your ass.

Donald J. Trump became a billionaire. You can argue successfully he had a leg up that many do not have, but make it, he did. And you can argue successfully that Trump has an abrasive style. But you can't argue that in many ways Trump was ineffective in his presidency. He was able to leverage votes and the Presidency into political action.

Economic growth, minority policies, border security (I find it hilarious Biden is now spending money on The Wall), ME peace deals, etc. Unconventional as all get out, but he did receive more votes than any Republican candidate. Ever.

I don't know as I would call that being out of your lane...

[Mik]

In his business career Trump was constantly dealing with government at all levels. In that respect he may have known it better than any number of other candidates.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jolly said in Would somebody shut this idiot up?:

Bullshit.. Get your head out of your ass.

Well, I was just joking but sure, okay!

I think you could make a case that there should be no career politicians, and qualifications should be sought elsewhere if one wants to run for an elected office. I believe that. So I don't care that Trump had no political experience prior to his being president.

Here's the problem, though: you can't tell me that Trump was honestly interested in uniting liberals and conservatives. Quite obviously his thing was and always has been to play to his base.

By doing that, he created a communication vacuum during the early months of the pandemic because about half the country—many of which aren't rabid liberals and simply didn't vote for him—didn't feel confident in his messaging. That's why we had a Fauci.

The whole, "this is how you get more Trump" thing? Look in the damn mirror. That's exactly why Fauci was on the front page of every news site every day for the better part of the year.