Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19
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I can't really see why anybody would go after Fauci like this, unless it's because he occasionally made Donald Trump look like a bit of a dick, in a pretty small way.
Incidentally, if you're going to start going after people who made Donald Trump look like a bit of a dick, you might want to start a little closer to Campaign HQ.
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I can't really see why anybody would go after Fauci like this, unless it's because he occasionally made Donald Trump look like a bit of a dick, in a pretty small way.
Incidentally, if you're going to start going after people who made Donald Trump look like a bit of a dick, you might want to start a little closer to Campaign HQ.
@doctor-phibes said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
I can't really see why anybody would go after Fauci like this
In this case it is because it appears that we funded the research that led to the Woo-Flu
It would be nice to know when/how/why/who
And do we plan to do it again?
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I think your bullshit detector might be in need of calibration.
I was only joking
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We, the U.S. taxpayer, put money into the Wuhan lab. Period.
Gain of Function research was going on in the Wuhan lab. Period.
@jolly said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
We, the U.S. taxpayer, put money into the Wuhan lab. Period.
Gain of Function research was going on in the Wuhan lab. Period.
That is an amazing allegation and I won’t dismiss it out of hand. Let’s see if it was a one night riff or something that has legs. I’d love A Glenn Greenwood on the case.
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I think your bullshit detector might be in need of calibration.
@doctor-phibes said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
I think your bullshit detector might be in need of calibration.
Read it if you dare!
It is pretty straight-forward public information.
NIH paid EcoHealth Alliance
Dr. Fauci is the boss
EcoHealth Alliance paid the Wuhan lab
The National Institutes of Health has awarded a grant worth $7.5 million over five years to EcoHealth Alliance, a U.S.-based nonprofit that hunts emerging viruses. The award comes months after NIH revoked an earlier grant to EcoHealth, a move scientists widely decried as the politically motivated quashing of research vital to preventing the next coronavirus pandemic.
EcoHealth's bat research in China was entirely funded through the $3.7 million NIH grant. A small portion — about $76,000 per year — was used to pay the Wuhan lab for its on-the-ground work.
Funded by NIH
Let's go to the NIH web site and see who is the director?
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director
A familiar face!
Why The U.S. Government Stopped Funding A Research Project On Bats And Coronaviruses
The U.S. government has suddenly terminated funding for a years-long research project in China that many experts say is vital to preventing the next major coronavirus outbreak.
Nonetheless, at an April 17 news conference, President Trump said he had given instructions to check if any U.S. funding was slated for the Wuhan Institute, and if so, he said, it would immediately be terminated. Days later, on April 24, the National Institutes of Health, or NIH — which was providing the grant for the project — notified EcoHealth Alliance that the money was being canceled, as first reported by Politico.
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@jolly said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
We, the U.S. taxpayer, put money into the Wuhan lab. Period.
Gain of Function research was going on in the Wuhan lab. Period.
That is an amazing allegation and I won’t dismiss it out of hand. Let’s see if it was a one night riff or something that has legs. I’d love A Glenn Greenwood on the case.
@loki said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@jolly said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
We, the U.S. taxpayer, put money into the Wuhan lab. Period.
Gain of Function research was going on in the Wuhan lab. Period.
That is an amazing allegation and I won’t dismiss it out of hand. Let’s see if it was a one night riff or something that has legs. I’d love A Glenn Greenwood on the case.
I don't consider it an allegation. AFAIK, those are facts.
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Taxpayers money went into a foreign research lab on something or another that undoubtedly involved a legitmate US based partner!
Oh, the harumpfing indignation of it all!
It happens all the time the world over.
@renauda said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
Taxpayers money went into a foreign research lab on something or another that undoubtedly involved a legitmate US based partner!
Oh, the harumpfing indignation of it all!
It happens all the time the world over.
But it doesn't usually generate a world-wide pandemic.
In this case, that is a distinct possibility. Not proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, but a distinct possibility.
I don't think the ultimate goal of this is to eviscerate Fauci, as much as it is to pin the tail on the Chinese donkey...
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@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
It is pretty straight-forward public information.
NIH paid EcoHealth Alliance
Dr. Fauci is the boss
EcoHealth Alliance paid the Wuhan labThe funding for EcoHealth Alliance/Wuhan lab was re-approved in 2019 under the Trump administration. So, really, it’s Trump’s fault.
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@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
It is pretty straight-forward public information.
NIH paid EcoHealth Alliance
Dr. Fauci is the boss
EcoHealth Alliance paid the Wuhan labThe funding for EcoHealth Alliance/Wuhan lab was re-approved in 2019 under the Trump administration. So, really, it’s Trump’s fault.
@axtremus said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
It is pretty straight-forward public information.
NIH paid EcoHealth Alliance
Dr. Fauci is the boss
EcoHealth Alliance paid the Wuhan labThe funding for EcoHealth Alliance/Wuhan lab was re-approved in 2019 under the Trump administration. So, really, it’s Trump’s fault.
No, you move down the line until you come to a Democrat. At that point, you stop and that is the person that gets the blame.
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@axtremus said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
It is pretty straight-forward public information.
NIH paid EcoHealth Alliance
Dr. Fauci is the boss
EcoHealth Alliance paid the Wuhan labThe funding for EcoHealth Alliance/Wuhan lab was re-approved in 2019 under the Trump administration. So, really, it’s Trump’s fault.
No, you move down the line until you come to a Democrat. At that point, you stop and that is the person that gets the blame.
@taiwan_girl said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@axtremus said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
It is pretty straight-forward public information.
NIH paid EcoHealth Alliance
Dr. Fauci is the boss
EcoHealth Alliance paid the Wuhan labThe funding for EcoHealth Alliance/Wuhan lab was re-approved in 2019 under the Trump administration. So, really, it’s Trump’s fault.
No, you move down the line until you come to a Democrat. At that point, you stop and that is the person that gets the blame.
Aren't you the same person that was poo-pooing this just a few posts above?
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@taiwan_girl said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@axtremus said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
It is pretty straight-forward public information.
NIH paid EcoHealth Alliance
Dr. Fauci is the boss
EcoHealth Alliance paid the Wuhan labThe funding for EcoHealth Alliance/Wuhan lab was re-approved in 2019 under the Trump administration. So, really, it’s Trump’s fault.
No, you move down the line until you come to a Democrat. At that point, you stop and that is the person that gets the blame.
Aren't you the same person that was poo-pooing this just a few posts above?
@jolly said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@taiwan_girl said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@axtremus said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
It is pretty straight-forward public information.
NIH paid EcoHealth Alliance
Dr. Fauci is the boss
EcoHealth Alliance paid the Wuhan labThe funding for EcoHealth Alliance/Wuhan lab was re-approved in 2019 under the Trump administration. So, really, it’s Trump’s fault.
No, you move down the line until you come to a Democrat. At that point, you stop and that is the person that gets the blame.
Aren't you the same person that was poo-pooing this just a few posts above?
Yep, I still dont believe it is true. Does the US provide funding for various projects? Yes.
Did the Chinese come to Dr. Fauci and say, "Hey, we are going to develop a biological weapon that we will use on the western world. Can we have some money from you?"
Dr. Fauci "That is a great idea. On behalf of the US, here is a bunch of money"
I have been involved with development projects in different countries, and the source of the project money may be coming from sources such at US and China at the same time. They may know the general scope of the project. When looking for grants and funding, oftentimes, the grant application is written quite broad to appeal to the largest group of funders. For example, "Research to help lower infection rate among villagers in rural Indonesia" So, a lab gets funding from the US and China. Could some of that research be on viruses? Sure. Could a "rouge" sub-group take that research further and for bad means? Sure.
HOWEVER, I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.
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Don't misconstrue the facts.
Has anybody said Fauci told them to weaponize a virus? No. But we do know the money was sent under his watch and possibly with his direct approval for Gain of Function research.
Do we know the virus was the product of the Wuhan lab? Not definitively. But we are starting to have a clearer picture, pixel by pixel, fact by fact.
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Don't misconstrue the facts.
Has anybody said Fauci told them to weaponize a virus? No. But we do know the money was sent under his watch and possibly with his direct approval for Gain of Function research.
Do we know the virus was the product of the Wuhan lab? Not definitively. But we are starting to have a clearer picture, pixel by pixel, fact by fact.
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@jolly said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
Don't misconstrue the facts.
Good advise, especially for Tucker Carlson.
@axtremus said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@jolly said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
Don't misconstrue the facts.
Good advise, especially for Tucker Carlson.
Also good advise not to ignore facts when they are presented to you.
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@jolly said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@taiwan_girl said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@axtremus said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
It is pretty straight-forward public information.
NIH paid EcoHealth Alliance
Dr. Fauci is the boss
EcoHealth Alliance paid the Wuhan labThe funding for EcoHealth Alliance/Wuhan lab was re-approved in 2019 under the Trump administration. So, really, it’s Trump’s fault.
No, you move down the line until you come to a Democrat. At that point, you stop and that is the person that gets the blame.
Aren't you the same person that was poo-pooing this just a few posts above?
Yep, I still dont believe it is true. Does the US provide funding for various projects? Yes.
Did the Chinese come to Dr. Fauci and say, "Hey, we are going to develop a biological weapon that we will use on the western world. Can we have some money from you?"
Dr. Fauci "That is a great idea. On behalf of the US, here is a bunch of money"
I have been involved with development projects in different countries, and the source of the project money may be coming from sources such at US and China at the same time. They may know the general scope of the project. When looking for grants and funding, oftentimes, the grant application is written quite broad to appeal to the largest group of funders. For example, "Research to help lower infection rate among villagers in rural Indonesia" So, a lab gets funding from the US and China. Could some of that research be on viruses? Sure. Could a "rouge" sub-group take that research further and for bad means? Sure.
HOWEVER, I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.
@taiwan_girl said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
Did the Chinese come to Dr. Fauci and say, "Hey, we are going to develop a biological weapon that we will use on the western world. Can we have some money from you?"
Of course not
Nobody is saying that, not even Tucker
Is he the boss of the organization that funded research in the Wuhan lab?
Yes
Is there something wrong with that? At the time, I don't know. In hindsight, yes obviously developing covid-19 is not a great idea.
Denying the well documented events and relationships is just plain stupid. Dr. Fauci is making a mistake doing that.
He should just tell the straight story.
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@taiwan_girl said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
Did the Chinese come to Dr. Fauci and say, "Hey, we are going to develop a biological weapon that we will use on the western world. Can we have some money from you?"
Of course not
Nobody is saying that, not even Tucker
Is he the boss of the organization that funded research in the Wuhan lab?
Yes
Is there something wrong with that? At the time, I don't know. In hindsight, yes obviously developing covid-19 is not a great idea.
Denying the well documented events and relationships is just plain stupid. Dr. Fauci is making a mistake doing that.
He should just tell the straight story.
@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
Is he the boss of the organization that funded research in the Wuhan lab?
The NIH is part of the US Department of Health and Human Services. That was headed by Alex Azar, who was appointed by (GASP!!!) President Trump!!!
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@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
Is he the boss of the organization that funded research in the Wuhan lab?
The NIH is part of the US Department of Health and Human Services. That was headed by Alex Azar, who was appointed by (GASP!!!) President Trump!!!
@taiwan_girl said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
@copper said in Dr. Fauci apparently paid for the creation of covid-19:
Is he the boss of the organization that funded research in the Wuhan lab?
The NIH is part of the US Department of Health and Human Services. That was headed by Alex Azar, who was appointed by (GASP!!!) President Trump!!!
Thank you for admitting Fauci ok'd the money.
