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  • JollyJ Offline
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/chinese-military-discussed-weaponizing-covid-2015-cause-enemys-medical-system-collapse

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      It would not surprise me if it were true, but I am also probably pretty sure that the US (and other countries) also do "what if" games, some of which are probably chemical or biology warfare.

      (Actually, I hope that they do do these types of "what ifs".)

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        It would not surprise me if it were true, but I am also probably pretty sure that the US (and other countries) also do "what if" games, some of which are probably chemical or biology warfare.

        (Actually, I hope that they do do these types of "what ifs".)

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        @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

        probably pretty sure

        Hmm... What's the probability this is true?

        taiwan_girlT HoraceH 2 Replies Last reply
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          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9556415/China-preparing-WW3-biological-weapons-six-years-investigators-say.html

          Chinese scientists have been preparing for a Third World War fought with biological and genetic weapons including coronavirus for the last six years, according to a document obtained by US investigators.

          The bombshell paper, accessed by the US State Department, insists they will be 'the core weapon for victory' in such a conflict, even outlining the perfect conditions to release a bioweapon, and documenting the impact it would have on 'the enemy's medical system'.

          This latest evidence that Beijing considered the military potential of SARS coronaviruses from as early as 2015 has also raised fresh fears over the cause of Covid-19, with some officials still believing the virus could have escaped from a Chinese lab.

          The dossier by People's Liberation Army scientists and health officials, details of which were reported in The Australian, examined the manipulation of diseases to make weapons 'in a way never seen before'.

          Senior government figures say it 'raises major concerns' over the intentions of those close to Chinese President Xi Jinping amid growing fears about the country's lack of regulation over its activity in laboratories.

          The authors of the document insist that a third world war 'will be biological', unlike the first two wars which were described as chemical and nuclear respectively.

          Referencing research which suggested the two atomic bombs dropped on Japan forced them to surrender, and bringing about the end of WWII, they claim bioweapons will be 'the core weapon for victory' in a third world war.

          The document also outlines the ideal conditions to release a bioweapon and cause maximum damage.

          The scientists say such attacks should not be carried out in the middle of a clear day, as intense sunlight can damage the pathogens, while rain or snow can affect the aerosol particles.

          Instead, it should be released at night, or at dawn, dusk, or under cloudy weather, with 'a stable wind direction...so that the aerosol can float into the target area'.

          Meanwhile, the research also notes that such an attack would result in a surge of patients requiring hospital treatment, which then 'could cause the enemy's medical system to collapse'

          Scientists studying bat diseases at China's maximum-security laboratory in Wuhan were engaged in a massive project to investigate animal viruses alongside leading military officials – despite their denials of any such links.

          Documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday reveal that a nationwide scheme, directed by a leading state body, was launched nine years ago to discover new viruses and detect the 'dark matter' of biology involved in spreading diseases.

          One leading Chinese scientist, who published the first genetic sequence of the Covid-19 virus in January last year, found 143 new diseases in the first three years of the project alone.

          The fact that such a virus-detection project is led by both civilian and military scientists appears to confirm incendiary claims from the United States alleging collaboration between the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) and the country's 2.1 million-strong armed forces.

          The documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday detail a major project called 'the discovery of animal-delivered pathogens carried by wild animals', which set out to find organisms that could infect humans and investigate their evolution.

          It was launched in 2012 and funded by the National Natural Science Foundation of China. The project was led by Xu Jianguo, who boasted at a conference in 2019 that 'a giant network of infectious disease prevention and control is taking shape'.

          The professor also headed the first expert group investigating Covid's emergence in Wuhan. He denied human transmission initially, despite evidence from hospitals, then insisted in mid-January 'this epidemic is limited and will end if there are no new cases next week'.

          One review of his virus-hunting project admitted 'a large number of new viruses have been discovered, causing great concern in the international virology community'.

          It added that if pathogens spread to humans and livestock, they could cause new infectious diseases 'posing a great threat to human health and life safety and may cause major economic losses, even affect social stability'.

          An update in 2018 said that the scientific teams – who published many of their findings in international journals – had found four new pathogens and ten new bacteria while 'more than 1,640 new viruses were discovered using metagenomics technology'. Such research is based on extraction of genetic material from samples such as those collected by Prof Shi from bat faeces and blood in the cave networks of southern China.

          Such extensive sampling led to Prof Shi's rapid revelation last year of RaTG13, the closest known relative to the new strain of coronavirus that causes Covid.

          It was stored at the Wuhan lab, the biggest repository of bat coronaviruses in Asia.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

            probably pretty sure

            Hmm... What's the probability this is true?

            taiwan_girlT Offline
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            @klaus said in Interesting If True:

            @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

            probably pretty sure

            Hmm... What's the probability this is true?

            I think maybe 90% or so.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @klaus said in Interesting If True:

              @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

              probably pretty sure

              Hmm... What's the probability this is true?

              I think maybe 90% or so.

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              @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

              @klaus said in Interesting If True:

              @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

              probably pretty sure

              Hmm... What's the probability this is true?

              I think maybe 90% or so.

              The probability that the probability is 90% is about 70%.

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              • KlausK Klaus

                @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

                @klaus said in Interesting If True:

                @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

                probably pretty sure

                Hmm... What's the probability this is true?

                I think maybe 90% or so.

                The probability that the probability is 90% is about 70%.

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                @klaus said in Interesting If True:

                @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

                @klaus said in Interesting If True:

                @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

                probably pretty sure

                Hmm... What's the probability this is true?

                I think maybe 90% or so.

                The probability that the probability is 90% is about 70%.

                Do you have a confidence level for that probability of probability estimate?

                I was only joking

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

                  probably pretty sure

                  Hmm... What's the probability this is true?

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                  @klaus said in Interesting If True:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Interesting If True:

                  probably pretty sure

                  Hmm... What's the probability this is true?

                  63%

                  Education is extremely important.

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