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"You will kneel for the national anthem"

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://jonathanturley.org/2021/05/05/kierstien-hening-refused-to-kneel-virginia-tech-sued-by-student-who-alleges-abuse-over-her-refusal-to-support-blm-and-diversity-displays/

    The lawsuit of Virginia Tech student Kierstien Hening begins with a simple statement: “Kierstien Hening refused to kneel.” The lawsuit filed this week against Virginia Tech soccer coach Charles “Chugger” Adair (in his official capacity) alleges that when Hening refused to kneel and support Black Lives Matter, she was benched, harassed and ultimately forced off the team. If the allegations are true, she could have not only a winning case but a case that could set important precedent for the freedom of speech.

    Adair implemented changes after a mandated diversity training order from the Atlantic Coast Conference. We have seen such mandated training programs in colleges and corporations — programs that can raise concerns over compelled speech and viewpoint discrimination. As a state school, Virginia Tech is subject to the limitations imposed on the government under the First Amendment.

    Hening alleges that Adair wanted the student to emulate former NFL Colin Kaepernick in kneeling before games and wanted to replace the name “Hokies” on the back of their jerseys with the names of people killed by police.

    Again, Adair and Virginia Tech have yet to respond to this lawsuit. However, the allegations are extremely serious in my view from a free speech perspective. There is a crushing irony to the allegations. Kaepernick was allowed to kneel in protest in the NFL. However, now students are complaining that they are not being allowed to stand for the anthem without retaliation and harassment.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      I hope she wins enough to set her up for life and Coach Bozo is thrown out on his ear.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Of course there is coercion, social or otherwise. I randomly drove by a local high school last weekend and on their electronic sign at the gate were three words, Black Lives Matter. That was in Walnut Creek, an upscale, mostly white city. Any guesses as to whether those student athletes kneel for any anthem played before their competitions? Or whether there is social coercion to do so?

        But then, it's easy to overestimate the ability of human beings raised in a certain culture, to actually generate an original thought. I am sure the great majority of them believe, in their hearts and minds, that kneeling is the right thing to do.

        Education is extremely important.

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          I hope she wins enough to set her up for life and Coach Bozo is thrown out on his ear.

          MikM Away
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          Mik
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          @jolly said in "You will kneel for the national anthem":

          I hope she wins enough to set her up for life and Coach Bozo is thrown out on his ear.

          Me too. This greatly surprises me at Virginia Tech.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Loki
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            Good to see these case studies wend their way to the courts where the excesses will be fixed.

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            • L Loki

              Good to see these case studies wend their way to the courts where the excesses will be fixed.

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              @loki said in "You will kneel for the national anthem":

              Good to see these case studies wend their way to the courts where the excesses will be fixed.

              +1. At least we hope it will be fixed.

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              • CopperC Offline
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                Idiots

                If they want to support cop-killers, that is their choice

                But they shouldn't be forcing others to support cop-killers.

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