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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Interesting...

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/24/exclusive-pastors-welcome-rise-in-private-and-homeschooling-in-black-communities/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      They still never address why the majority black schools are failing.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        They still never address why the majority black schools are failing.

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        @mik said in Black Schools:

        They still never address why the majority black schools are failing.

        I can give you multiple reasons...

        1. Curriculum and teaching methodology instability. My daughter has been in inner city schools for 13 years. She has changed math curriculums and teaching methodologies four times. The EdD's and PhD's seem to think a different approach fixes everything. The kids experience no consistency. Change in education is not always good.
        2. Teachers. Most teachers simply do not have the drive and personality to weather the grind, violence and frustration of many black schools. So, many leave. Some stay and draw a check. Some fight the good fight until they burn out.
        3. Students. This may be the most un-PC thing I'll ever say here... You can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap.
          Inner cities are not as analogous to 19th and early 20th century inner cities. Instead of a lot of new immigrants in many cities, you have an underclass who are now enjoying multiple generations in a cesspool of crime, single parenthood, state dependency, drugs and under-achievement. The smart ones have moved out and upward, leaving the dumb to breed. That's not to say bad ground doesn't produce good plants...There are still really bright, hardworking kids coming out of those neighborhoods, but the numbers continually trend downwards. And lest it be said I'm racist, I make this comment about those multi-generational dysfunctional people, no matter their race, creed or ethnic origin.
        4. Culture. It dovetails with number three, but these kid's heroes are the corner drug dealers with the flash and the cash. If they are fortunate enough to have one working parent, who would they rather be like, their mom who works two or three jobs and stays broke, or the dealers and the gangs who lead easier, more oppulent (to the hood) lifestyles?

        Secondly, the culture in many ways discourages effort and scholarship. Even the parent(s) sometimes discourage it. Why should my kids do better than me?, is a prevalent attitude among many.

        The whole thing is nothing but a recipe for failure...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Yup. No amount of money will ever fix the broken culture. In fact, it exacerbates it.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            They still never address why the majority black schools are failing.

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            @mik said in Black Schools:

            They still never address why the majority black schools are failing.

            Democrats

            BLM

            Too much money, not enough learning

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              @mik said in Black Schools:

              They still never address why the majority black schools are failing.

              I can give you multiple reasons...

              1. Curriculum and teaching methodology instability. My daughter has been in inner city schools for 13 years. She has changed math curriculums and teaching methodologies four times. The EdD's and PhD's seem to think a different approach fixes everything. The kids experience no consistency. Change in education is not always good.
              2. Teachers. Most teachers simply do not have the drive and personality to weather the grind, violence and frustration of many black schools. So, many leave. Some stay and draw a check. Some fight the good fight until they burn out.
              3. Students. This may be the most un-PC thing I'll ever say here... You can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap.
                Inner cities are not as analogous to 19th and early 20th century inner cities. Instead of a lot of new immigrants in many cities, you have an underclass who are now enjoying multiple generations in a cesspool of crime, single parenthood, state dependency, drugs and under-achievement. The smart ones have moved out and upward, leaving the dumb to breed. That's not to say bad ground doesn't produce good plants...There are still really bright, hardworking kids coming out of those neighborhoods, but the numbers continually trend downwards. And lest it be said I'm racist, I make this comment about those multi-generational dysfunctional people, no matter their race, creed or ethnic origin.
              4. Culture. It dovetails with number three, but these kid's heroes are the corner drug dealers with the flash and the cash. If they are fortunate enough to have one working parent, who would they rather be like, their mom who works two or three jobs and stays broke, or the dealers and the gangs who lead easier, more oppulent (to the hood) lifestyles?

              Secondly, the culture in many ways discourages effort and scholarship. Even the parent(s) sometimes discourage it. Why should my kids do better than me?, is a prevalent attitude among many.

              The whole thing is nothing but a recipe for failure...

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              @jolly said in Black Schools:

              @mik said in Black Schools:

              They still never address why the majority black schools are failing.

              I can give you multiple reasons...

              1. Curriculum and teaching methodology instability. My daughter has been in inner city schools for 13 years. She has changed math curriculums and teaching methodologies four times. The EdD's and PhD's seem to think a different approach fixes everything. The kids experience no consistency. Change in education is not always good.
              2. Teachers. Most teachers simply do not have the drive and personality to weather the grind, violence and frustration of many black schools. So, many leave. Some stay and draw a check. Some fight the good fight until they burn out.
              3. Students. This may be the most un-PC thing I'll ever say here... You can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap.
                Inner cities are not as analogous to 19th and early 20th century inner cities. Instead of a lot of new immigrants in many cities, you have an underclass who are now enjoying multiple generations in a cesspool of crime, single parenthood, state dependency, drugs and under-achievement. The smart ones have moved out and upward, leaving the dumb to breed. That's not to say bad ground doesn't produce good plants...There are still really bright, hardworking kids coming out of those neighborhoods, but the numbers continually trend downwards. And lest it be said I'm racist, I make this comment about those multi-generational dysfunctional people, no matter their race, creed or ethnic origin.
              4. Culture. It dovetails with number three, but these kid's heroes are the corner drug dealers with the flash and the cash. If they are fortunate enough to have one working parent, who would they rather be like, their mom who works two or three jobs and stays broke, or the dealers and the gangs who lead easier, more oppulent (to the hood) lifestyles?

              Secondly, the culture in many ways discourages effort and scholarship. Even the parent(s) sometimes discourage it. Why should my kids do better than me?, is a prevalent attitude among many.

              The whole thing is nothing but a recipe for failure...

              There is a lot of true in what you say. You can take equal poor communities, and some succeed better than others. I grew up poor (didn't have indoor plumbing, probably didn't have a "real" shower or bath until I was a teenager, etc), but my parents knew that education was the way to make it. My mom has a third grade education, and even if she could not help with my schoolwork, she made sure that I had it done. No excuses. There definitely is a cultural part to it for sure.

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