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  • D Doctor Phibes
    23 Apr 2021, 20:06

    Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

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    Copper
    wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 20:26 last edited by
    #24

    @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

    Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate

    ![alt text](01454e0e-4b46-42ee-b1d8-4b9127cb01cd-image.png image url)

    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/murder-rates/murder-rate-of-death-penalty-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-states

    Of course, the thing is that the states with a higher rate are the ones that need it more.

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    • J Jolly
      23 Apr 2021, 20:08

      @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

      Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

      Yep.

      A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 21:05 last edited by
      #25

      @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

      @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

      Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

      Yep.

      A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

      On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

      Please love yourself.

      J 1 Reply Last reply 23 Apr 2021, 22:12
      • A Aqua Letifer
        23 Apr 2021, 21:05

        @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

        @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

        Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

        Yep.

        A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

        On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 22:12 last edited by
        #26

        @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

        @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

        @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

        Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

        Yep.

        A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

        On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

        Execution ain't murder.

        β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          23 Apr 2021, 22:12

          @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

          Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

          Yep.

          A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

          On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

          Execution ain't murder.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 22:16 last edited by
          #27

          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

          Execution ain't murder.

          Sure.

          Please love yourself.

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          • J Jolly
            23 Apr 2021, 22:12

            @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

            @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

            @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

            Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

            Yep.

            A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

            On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

            Execution ain't murder.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 23:01 last edited by
            #28

            @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

            @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

            @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

            @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

            Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

            Yep.

            A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

            On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

            Execution ain't murder.

            What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

            I was only joking

            J 1 Reply Last reply 24 Apr 2021, 00:42
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              Copper
              wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 23:12 last edited by
              #29

              What would you call the killing of an innocent by the murderer that wasn't executed?

              A price worth paying to achieve woke?

              What would you call the killing of an innocent by the murderer that wasn't discouraged by possible execution?

              A price worth paying to achieve woke?

              OK, that's reasonable.

              I tend to favor the innocent over the murderer, but to each his own.

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              • C Copper
                23 Apr 2021, 23:12

                What would you call the killing of an innocent by the murderer that wasn't executed?

                A price worth paying to achieve woke?

                What would you call the killing of an innocent by the murderer that wasn't discouraged by possible execution?

                A price worth paying to achieve woke?

                OK, that's reasonable.

                I tend to favor the innocent over the murderer, but to each his own.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 23:44 last edited by
                #30

                @copper said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                I tend to favor the innocent over the murderer, but to each his own.

                Except when they've been wrongfully convicted, it would appear.

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  23 Apr 2021, 23:44

                  @copper said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                  I tend to favor the innocent over the murderer, but to each his own.

                  Except when they've been wrongfully convicted, it would appear.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 00:10 last edited by
                  #31

                  @Copper Dude why even reply, it's obvious you're not trying to understand anybody. Jolly will at least try to interpret posts he disagrees with.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    23 Apr 2021, 23:01

                    @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                    @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                    Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                    Yep.

                    A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                    On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                    Execution ain't murder.

                    What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 00:42 last edited by Jolly
                    #32

                    @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                    @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                    @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                    Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                    Yep.

                    A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                    On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                    Execution ain't murder.

                    What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                    Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                    We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                    β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

                    D 1 Reply Last reply 24 Apr 2021, 03:24
                    • A Aqua Letifer
                      24 Apr 2021, 00:10

                      @Copper Dude why even reply, it's obvious you're not trying to understand anybody. Jolly will at least try to interpret posts he disagrees with.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 01:39 last edited by
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                      @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                      @Copper Dude why even reply, it's obvious you're not trying to understand anybody. Jolly will at least try to interpret posts he disagrees with.

                      I understand exactly

                      You refuse to consider the whole story, I'm helping you do that

                      The wrongfully convicted are a sad consequence of imperfection

                      But that is not the whole story

                      Stomp your feet if you like, I'll still be here to help

                      R 1 Reply Last reply 24 Apr 2021, 13:58
                      • J Jolly
                        24 Apr 2021, 00:42

                        @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                        Yep.

                        A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                        On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                        Execution ain't murder.

                        What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                        Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                        We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 03:24 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #34

                        @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                        Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                        Yep.

                        A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                        On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                        Execution ain't murder.

                        What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                        Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                        We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                        It's not justice, thought. It's a grave injustice.

                        An Englishman once said that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer, a sentiment that was repeated by your Mr. Franklin.

                        At least with wrongful imprisonment, the wrong has a chance of being righted.

                        I was only joking

                        J 1 Reply Last reply 24 Apr 2021, 11:33
                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          24 Apr 2021, 03:24

                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                          Yep.

                          A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                          On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                          Execution ain't murder.

                          What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                          Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                          We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                          It's not justice, thought. It's a grave injustice.

                          An Englishman once said that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer, a sentiment that was repeated by your Mr. Franklin.

                          At least with wrongful imprisonment, the wrong has a chance of being righted.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 11:33 last edited by
                          #35

                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                          Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                          Yep.

                          A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                          On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                          Execution ain't murder.

                          What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                          Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                          We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                          It's not justice, thought. It's a grave injustice.

                          An Englishman once said that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer, a sentiment that was repeated by your Mr. Franklin.

                          At least with wrongful imprisonment, the wrong has a chance of being righted.

                          Only if you look at it as nothing past the grave. Man has imperfect justice, but God's Justice is perfect. He shall know his own, and any errors in this world will be corrected in the next.

                          β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

                          D 1 Reply Last reply 24 Apr 2021, 17:02
                          • C Copper
                            24 Apr 2021, 01:39

                            @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                            @Copper Dude why even reply, it's obvious you're not trying to understand anybody. Jolly will at least try to interpret posts he disagrees with.

                            I understand exactly

                            You refuse to consider the whole story, I'm helping you do that

                            The wrongfully convicted are a sad consequence of imperfection

                            But that is not the whole story

                            Stomp your feet if you like, I'll still be here to help

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 13:58 last edited by Renauda
                            #36

                            @copper said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                            @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                            @Copper Dude why even reply, it's obvious you're not trying to understand anybody. Jolly will at least try to interpret posts he disagrees with.

                            I understand exactly....

                            The wrongfully convicted are a sad consequence of imperfection

                            Well at least that is sorted out. Which ever poison works best for you. You're probably right either way. Time to round up the usual suspects, eh?

                            Elbows up!

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                            • J Jolly
                              24 Apr 2021, 11:33

                              @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                              Yep.

                              A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                              On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                              Execution ain't murder.

                              What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                              Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                              We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                              It's not justice, thought. It's a grave injustice.

                              An Englishman once said that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer, a sentiment that was repeated by your Mr. Franklin.

                              At least with wrongful imprisonment, the wrong has a chance of being righted.

                              Only if you look at it as nothing past the grave. Man has imperfect justice, but God's Justice is perfect. He shall know his own, and any errors in this world will be corrected in the next.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 17:02 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #37

                              @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                              Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                              Yep.

                              A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                              On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                              Execution ain't murder.

                              What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                              Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                              We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                              It's not justice, thought. It's a grave injustice.

                              An Englishman once said that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer, a sentiment that was repeated by your Mr. Franklin.

                              At least with wrongful imprisonment, the wrong has a chance of being righted.

                              Only if you look at it as nothing past the grave. Man has imperfect justice, but God's Justice is perfect. He shall know his own, and any errors in this world will be corrected in the next.

                              So maybe only execute religious people?

                              If I was going to be executed for a crime I hadn't committed, I would find the idea that it was all OK because of somebody else's religious beliefs to be extremely tiresome.

                              I was only joking

                              J 1 Reply Last reply 24 Apr 2021, 18:43
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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 17:50 last edited by Renauda
                                #38

                                Oh look a crack in the judicial system! Get out the bucket of God spackle and fill it with merciful theodicy. That'll surely make it good and bring comfort to all.

                                To me the invocation of divine justice just seems like a cop out or lame excuse not to make the judicial system less imperfect than it already is.

                                Elbows up!

                                J 1 Reply Last reply 24 Apr 2021, 18:44
                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  24 Apr 2021, 17:02

                                  @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                                  Yep.

                                  A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                                  On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                                  Execution ain't murder.

                                  What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                                  Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                                  We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                                  It's not justice, thought. It's a grave injustice.

                                  An Englishman once said that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer, a sentiment that was repeated by your Mr. Franklin.

                                  At least with wrongful imprisonment, the wrong has a chance of being righted.

                                  Only if you look at it as nothing past the grave. Man has imperfect justice, but God's Justice is perfect. He shall know his own, and any errors in this world will be corrected in the next.

                                  So maybe only execute religious people?

                                  If I was going to be executed for a crime I hadn't committed, I would find the idea that it was all OK because of somebody else's religious beliefs to be extremely tiresome.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 18:43 last edited by
                                  #39

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                  Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                                  Yep.

                                  A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                                  On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                                  Execution ain't murder.

                                  What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                                  Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                                  We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                                  It's not justice, thought. It's a grave injustice.

                                  An Englishman once said that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer, a sentiment that was repeated by your Mr. Franklin.

                                  At least with wrongful imprisonment, the wrong has a chance of being righted.

                                  Only if you look at it as nothing past the grave. Man has imperfect justice, but God's Justice is perfect. He shall know his own, and any errors in this world will be corrected in the next.

                                  So maybe only execute religious people?

                                  If I was going to be executed for a crime I hadn't committed, I would find the idea that it was all OK because of somebody else's religious beliefs to be extremely tiresome.

                                  I suspect most people before execution become quite religious.😊

                                  β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

                                  D 1 Reply Last reply 24 Apr 2021, 19:26
                                  • R Renauda
                                    24 Apr 2021, 17:50

                                    Oh look a crack in the judicial system! Get out the bucket of God spackle and fill it with merciful theodicy. That'll surely make it good and bring comfort to all.

                                    To me the invocation of divine justice just seems like a cop out or lame excuse not to make the judicial system less imperfect than it already is.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 18:44 last edited by
                                    #40

                                    @renauda said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                    Oh look a crack in the judicial system! Get out the bucket of God spackle and fill it with merciful theodicy. That'll surely make it good and bring comfort to all.

                                    To me the invocation of divine justice just seems like a cop out or lame excuse not to make the judicial system less imperfect than it already is.

                                    That opinion and $1 (American) will buy you a senior coffee at McDonald's.😊

                                    β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 18:48 last edited by Jolly
                                      #41

                                      Lastly...If I gave y'all $70 every day, to spend on anything you wished for any poor family you deemed deserving, what would you buy them?

                                      β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        24 Apr 2021, 18:48

                                        Lastly...If I gave y'all $70 every day, to spend on anything you wished for any poor family you deemed deserving, what would you buy them?

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 18:53 last edited by
                                        #42

                                        @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                        Lastly...If I gave y'all $70 every day, to spend on anything you wished for any poor family you deemed deserving, what would you buy them?

                                        Ammo

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          24 Apr 2021, 18:43

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                                          Yep.

                                          A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                                          On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                                          Execution ain't murder.

                                          What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                                          Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                                          We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                                          It's not justice, thought. It's a grave injustice.

                                          An Englishman once said that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer, a sentiment that was repeated by your Mr. Franklin.

                                          At least with wrongful imprisonment, the wrong has a chance of being righted.

                                          Only if you look at it as nothing past the grave. Man has imperfect justice, but God's Justice is perfect. He shall know his own, and any errors in this world will be corrected in the next.

                                          So maybe only execute religious people?

                                          If I was going to be executed for a crime I hadn't committed, I would find the idea that it was all OK because of somebody else's religious beliefs to be extremely tiresome.

                                          I suspect most people before execution become quite religious.😊

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                                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

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                                          @aqua-letifer said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @jolly said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, on Long Island...:

                                          Is there any evidence that having the death penalty reduces the murder rate?

                                          Yep.

                                          A dead person never killed anybody.πŸ˜„

                                          On the other hand, it kind of increases the murder rate by definition.

                                          Execution ain't murder.

                                          What would you call the killing of an innocent human being? A price worth paying to achieve some undefined and unspecified benefit?

                                          Justice. Sadly, it's imperfect, because man is imperfect. There will always be somebody wrongly convicted. Or wrongly executed.

                                          We do the best we can on this mortal coil and let God take care of the soul.

                                          It's not justice, thought. It's a grave injustice.

                                          An Englishman once said that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer, a sentiment that was repeated by your Mr. Franklin.

                                          At least with wrongful imprisonment, the wrong has a chance of being righted.

                                          Only if you look at it as nothing past the grave. Man has imperfect justice, but God's Justice is perfect. He shall know his own, and any errors in this world will be corrected in the next.

                                          So maybe only execute religious people?

                                          If I was going to be executed for a crime I hadn't committed, I would find the idea that it was all OK because of somebody else's religious beliefs to be extremely tiresome.

                                          I suspect most people before execution become quite religious.😊

                                          Using Jesus as an excuse for killing innocent people mostly died out in the middle ages.

                                          I was only joking

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