Interesting

[Jolly]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/#!po=12.5000

[George K]

tl;dr version:

Abstract:

"The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health."

[George K]

Also, I'm not sure I buy the hypoxia hypercapnia comments.

[George K]

Not sure about the journal.

"Med Hypotheses."

Also, not, from what I can tell, peer-reviewed, etc.

[Doctor Phibes]

Do doctors get all those problems from wearing masks?

[Jolly]

@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:

Do doctors get all those problems from wearing masks?

I'm no doc, but there is a marked difference between a N95 and a surgical mask.

I have no clue if any studies have ever been done on long term surgical mask usage.

[George K]

@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:

Do doctors get all those problems from wearing masks?

Not that I've ever seen. But, what do I know? I only spent 1976 to 2016 in an operating room.

@jolly said:

but there is a marked difference between a N95 and a surgical mask.

Yup. We would wear N95s for some cases. They were much more uncomfortable and restrictive. However, I never experienced SOB or any other symptoms.

It was just a bigger PIA than usual.

[Doctor Phibes]

Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.

If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.

[Aqua Letifer]

@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:

Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.

If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.

I have a feeling Jolly posted it because he's either anti-mask or anti-what-liberals-support.

[Loki]

Interesting that no one who actually wear masks complain about any of these.

It’s a tragic way to lose a suburban and urban audience, maybe for good. It takes disconnected people to buy into this.

It really is becoming a circular firing squad.

[Doctor Phibes]

Some of the same people (not Jolly!) who claim that masks are damaging people, are also frequently the ones saying that Covid isn't actually that bad.

It's hard to argue with that logic.

[Jolly]

@aqua-letifer said in Interesting:

@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:

Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.

If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.

I have a feeling Jolly posted it because he's either anti-mask or anti-what-liberals-support.

Nah, I'm pro-freedom.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jolly said in Interesting:

@aqua-letifer said in Interesting:

@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:

Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.

If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.

I have a feeling Jolly posted it because he's either anti-mask or anti-what-liberals-support.

Nah, I'm pro-freedom.

[Renauda]

@jolly

Depends how you understand the concept of freedom.

[Jolly]

@renauda said in Interesting:

@jolly

Depends how you understand the concept of freedom.

It damn sure not Crown-centric as yours is.

[Doctor Phibes]

Allowing people to smoke tobacco wherever they damn well please isn't freedom, since it harms other people. The people smoking are actually adversely affecting other people's freedom.

And the the theory of the mask is that it protects others more than the wearer.

[Copper]

How much?

[Renauda]

Depends on the number of beans there are left to count.

[Doctor Phibes]

@copper said in Interesting:

How much?

67.4 Angstroms per Newton second per second squared

[Horace]

@jolly said in Interesting:

@renauda said in Interesting:

@jolly

Depends how you understand the concept of freedom.

It damn sure not Crown-centric as yours is.

I like my Royal Canadian Mint coins, but Canadians have some fetish for the queen and put her profile on every one. The maple leaf side is so much prettier.