Interesting
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 22:26 last edited by
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 22:33 last edited by
tl;dr version:
Abstract:
"The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health."
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 22:34 last edited by
Also, I'm not sure I buy the hypoxia hypercapnia comments.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 22:40 last edited by
Not sure about the journal.
"Med Hypotheses."
Also, not, from what I can tell, peer-reviewed, etc.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 23:46 last edited by
Do doctors get all those problems from wearing masks?
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Do doctors get all those problems from wearing masks?
wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 23:52 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:
Do doctors get all those problems from wearing masks?
I'm no doc, but there is a marked difference between a N95 and a surgical mask.
I have no clue if any studies have ever been done on long term surgical mask usage.
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Do doctors get all those problems from wearing masks?
wrote on 17 Apr 2021, 23:58 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:
Do doctors get all those problems from wearing masks?
Not that I've ever seen. But, what do I know? I only spent 1976 to 2016 in an operating room.
@jolly said:
but there is a marked difference between a N95 and a surgical mask.
Yup. We would wear N95s for some cases. They were much more uncomfortable and restrictive. However, I never experienced SOB or any other symptoms.
It was just a bigger PIA than usual.
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wrote on 18 Apr 2021, 13:59 last edited by
Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.
If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.
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Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.
If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.
wrote on 18 Apr 2021, 15:03 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:
Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.
If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.
I have a feeling Jolly posted it because he's either anti-mask or anti-what-liberals-support.
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wrote on 18 Apr 2021, 16:18 last edited by
Interesting that no one who actually wear masks complain about any of these.
It’s a tragic way to lose a suburban and urban audience, maybe for good. It takes disconnected people to buy into this.
It really is becoming a circular firing squad.
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wrote on 18 Apr 2021, 16:23 last edited by
Some of the same people (not Jolly!) who claim that masks are damaging people, are also frequently the ones saying that Covid isn't actually that bad.
It's hard to argue with that logic.
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@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:
Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.
If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.
I have a feeling Jolly posted it because he's either anti-mask or anti-what-liberals-support.
wrote on 18 Apr 2021, 22:44 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Interesting:
@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:
Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.
If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.
I have a feeling Jolly posted it because he's either anti-mask or anti-what-liberals-support.
Nah, I'm pro-freedom.
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@aqua-letifer said in Interesting:
@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:
Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.
If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.
I have a feeling Jolly posted it because he's either anti-mask or anti-what-liberals-support.
Nah, I'm pro-freedom.
wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 01:34 last edited by Aqua Letifer@jolly said in Interesting:
@aqua-letifer said in Interesting:
@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:
Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.
If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.
I have a feeling Jolly posted it because he's either anti-mask or anti-what-liberals-support.
Nah, I'm pro-freedom.
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@aqua-letifer said in Interesting:
@doctor-phibes said in Interesting:
Well that guy definitely doesn't like masks.
If you google the publication that published the article, it's got a pretty checkered history.
I have a feeling Jolly posted it because he's either anti-mask or anti-what-liberals-support.
Nah, I'm pro-freedom.
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wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 13:28 last edited by Jolly
@renauda said in Interesting:
Depends how you understand the concept of freedom.
It damn sure not Crown-centric as yours is.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 13:29 last edited by
Allowing people to smoke tobacco wherever they damn well please isn't freedom, since it harms other people. The people smoking are actually adversely affecting other people's freedom.
And the the theory of the mask is that it protects others more than the wearer.
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wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 14:24 last edited by
How much?
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wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 15:10 last edited by Renauda
Depends on the number of beans there are left to count.
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wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 15:20 last edited by
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@renauda said in Interesting:
Depends how you understand the concept of freedom.
It damn sure not Crown-centric as yours is.
wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 15:44 last edited by@jolly said in Interesting:
@renauda said in Interesting:
Depends how you understand the concept of freedom.
It damn sure not Crown-centric as yours is.
I like my Royal Canadian Mint coins, but Canadians have some fetish for the queen and put her profile on every one. The maple leaf side is so much prettier.
