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    Renauda
    wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 00:05 last edited by
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    We learn from advice from savy friends but mostly, a combination of YouTube videos plus trial and error.

    I'll try to post some pictures as things develop.

    Elbows up!

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    • R Renauda
      5 Apr 2021, 00:05

      We learn from advice from savy friends but mostly, a combination of YouTube videos plus trial and error.

      I'll try to post some pictures as things develop.

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      brenda
      wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 00:27 last edited by
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      @renauda Yes, I have a favorite YouTube upholstery teacher, Kim Buckminster.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 00:28 last edited by
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        Nobody asked, but whatever, y'all are doing it, so:

        • Woke up at 8. Ran outside to try to take advantage of the morning light. I had 4 photos left of my Ektachrome project and about 4 photos left of HP5, and I'd yet to try to take some morning light photos to test the dynamic range. Got outside, found a place to meter in the back yard, and then I shit you not, the light changed and never returned. So I brought all my stuff back inside.
        • Had tea with my wife from about 8:15 to 9:15.
        • Went back outside. Took a couple of photos. Realized the ISO setting on the light meter was set to the HP5, not the Ektachome, effectively ruining the two photos I just took. Nice. Retook them with the right settings, thus finishing off the roll.
        • The Pentax has a problem with the advance lever. It only lets me get to 32 photos, not 36. Maybe it's advancing too far per shot? Only way to know is to get the film developed and look at the negative strip. So, well, that roll's done too now, I suppose.
        • Took kiddo outside. Got the Puckster out too, so he could stretch his legs.
        • Did egg dying stuff with kiddo. She was impressed at first, then all kinds of was not but hey she's still pretty young for it. I made a pretty baller one that does this gradient thing from blue to yellow.
        • Started on the food for today. I made chicken & dumplings, my wife made berry pie. Not traditional for Easter but badass nonetheless.
        • FaceTime with my folks, then with some friends of ours in Richmond.
        • Ate way too much. Way. Regret nothing.
        • Put kiddo to sleep.
        • Getting the last of the tea out of the pot I started this morning, as is per usual.

        I don't think you could pay me enough to even serious consider working in some dumbshit office again.

        Please love yourself.

        B F 2 Replies Last reply 5 Apr 2021, 00:30
        • A Aqua Letifer
          5 Apr 2021, 00:28

          Nobody asked, but whatever, y'all are doing it, so:

          • Woke up at 8. Ran outside to try to take advantage of the morning light. I had 4 photos left of my Ektachrome project and about 4 photos left of HP5, and I'd yet to try to take some morning light photos to test the dynamic range. Got outside, found a place to meter in the back yard, and then I shit you not, the light changed and never returned. So I brought all my stuff back inside.
          • Had tea with my wife from about 8:15 to 9:15.
          • Went back outside. Took a couple of photos. Realized the ISO setting on the light meter was set to the HP5, not the Ektachome, effectively ruining the two photos I just took. Nice. Retook them with the right settings, thus finishing off the roll.
          • The Pentax has a problem with the advance lever. It only lets me get to 32 photos, not 36. Maybe it's advancing too far per shot? Only way to know is to get the film developed and look at the negative strip. So, well, that roll's done too now, I suppose.
          • Took kiddo outside. Got the Puckster out too, so he could stretch his legs.
          • Did egg dying stuff with kiddo. She was impressed at first, then all kinds of was not but hey she's still pretty young for it. I made a pretty baller one that does this gradient thing from blue to yellow.
          • Started on the food for today. I made chicken & dumplings, my wife made berry pie. Not traditional for Easter but badass nonetheless.
          • FaceTime with my folks, then with some friends of ours in Richmond.
          • Ate way too much. Way. Regret nothing.
          • Put kiddo to sleep.
          • Getting the last of the tea out of the pot I started this morning, as is per usual.

          I don't think you could pay me enough to even serious consider working in some dumbshit office again.

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          brenda
          wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 00:30 last edited by
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          @aqua-letifer That's a very good day, Aqua. πŸ™‚

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          • B brenda
            5 Apr 2021, 00:30

            @aqua-letifer That's a very good day, Aqua. πŸ™‚

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 00:32 last edited by
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            @brenda said in My lazy day:

            @aqua-letifer That's a very good day, Aqua. πŸ™‚

            Couldn't have asked for better.

            Please love yourself.

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              George K
              wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 00:33 last edited by
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              We don't have a "like" button, but if we did, I'd hit that.

              Great day, Aqua, even though I didn't understand shit about the photography stuff you posted.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                5 Apr 2021, 00:33

                We don't have a "like" button, but if we did, I'd hit that.

                Great day, Aqua, even though I didn't understand shit about the photography stuff you posted.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 00:34 last edited by
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                @george-k said in My lazy day:

                Great day, Aqua, even though I didn't understand shit about the photography stuff you posted.

                Basically I fucked up. That pretty much sums it up. πŸ˜„

                Please love yourself.

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  5 Apr 2021, 00:34

                  @george-k said in My lazy day:

                  Great day, Aqua, even though I didn't understand shit about the photography stuff you posted.

                  Basically I fucked up. That pretty much sums it up. πŸ˜„

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 00:42 last edited by
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                  @aqua-letifer said in My lazy day:

                  Basically I fucked up.

                  Fall down seven times, get up eight.-- Japanese Proverb

                  ^
                  9ab203a9-fea1-46bd-ba3a-82184360b96b-image.png

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • C Catseye3
                    5 Apr 2021, 00:42

                    @aqua-letifer said in My lazy day:

                    Basically I fucked up.

                    Fall down seven times, get up eight.-- Japanese Proverb

                    ^
                    9ab203a9-fea1-46bd-ba3a-82184360b96b-image.png

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 00:47 last edited by
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                    @catseye3 said in My lazy day:

                    @aqua-letifer said in My lazy day:

                    Basically I fucked up.

                    Fall down seven times, get up eight.-- Japanese Proverb

                    ^
                    9ab203a9-fea1-46bd-ba3a-82184360b96b-image.png

                    πŸ˜„ Yep. And it's okay, because I caught the mistake, so I won't be perplexed when the developed film comes back. I also took plenty of other test shots and wrote down their settings and meter readings to compare against, so I'll have plenty to work with after all's developed.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • A Aqua Letifer
                      5 Apr 2021, 00:34

                      @george-k said in My lazy day:

                      Great day, Aqua, even though I didn't understand shit about the photography stuff you posted.

                      Basically I fucked up. That pretty much sums it up. πŸ˜„

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 5 Apr 2021, 12:16 last edited by
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                      @aqua-letifer said in My lazy day:

                      @george-k said in My lazy day:

                      Great day, Aqua, even though I didn't understand shit about the photography stuff you posted.

                      Basically I fucked up. That pretty much sums it up. πŸ˜„

                      Who knows? It may turn out better than you think...

                      β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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                      • A Aqua Letifer
                        5 Apr 2021, 00:28

                        Nobody asked, but whatever, y'all are doing it, so:

                        • Woke up at 8. Ran outside to try to take advantage of the morning light. I had 4 photos left of my Ektachrome project and about 4 photos left of HP5, and I'd yet to try to take some morning light photos to test the dynamic range. Got outside, found a place to meter in the back yard, and then I shit you not, the light changed and never returned. So I brought all my stuff back inside.
                        • Had tea with my wife from about 8:15 to 9:15.
                        • Went back outside. Took a couple of photos. Realized the ISO setting on the light meter was set to the HP5, not the Ektachome, effectively ruining the two photos I just took. Nice. Retook them with the right settings, thus finishing off the roll.
                        • The Pentax has a problem with the advance lever. It only lets me get to 32 photos, not 36. Maybe it's advancing too far per shot? Only way to know is to get the film developed and look at the negative strip. So, well, that roll's done too now, I suppose.
                        • Took kiddo outside. Got the Puckster out too, so he could stretch his legs.
                        • Did egg dying stuff with kiddo. She was impressed at first, then all kinds of was not but hey she's still pretty young for it. I made a pretty baller one that does this gradient thing from blue to yellow.
                        • Started on the food for today. I made chicken & dumplings, my wife made berry pie. Not traditional for Easter but badass nonetheless.
                        • FaceTime with my folks, then with some friends of ours in Richmond.
                        • Ate way too much. Way. Regret nothing.
                        • Put kiddo to sleep.
                        • Getting the last of the tea out of the pot I started this morning, as is per usual.

                        I don't think you could pay me enough to even serious consider working in some dumbshit office again.

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                        Friday
                        wrote on 6 Apr 2021, 08:26 last edited by
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                        @aqua-letifer

                        Catching the right light was always so frustrating for me. It was one of the main reasons why I stopped taking pictures. That, and I wasn't very good at it.

                        Do you develop your own film?

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                        • F Friday
                          6 Apr 2021, 08:26

                          @aqua-letifer

                          Catching the right light was always so frustrating for me. It was one of the main reasons why I stopped taking pictures. That, and I wasn't very good at it.

                          Do you develop your own film?

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 6 Apr 2021, 14:48 last edited by
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                          @friday said in My lazy day:

                          @aqua-letifer

                          Catching the right light was always so frustrating for me. It was one of the main reasons why I stopped taking pictures. That, and I wasn't very good at it.

                          Yeah, it's a funny thing. Photography has nothing to do with the technical stuff, even though that's all middle-age white guys want to obsess over. It's all about training your eyes to see. That sounds kinda "woo," but that's literally what it is. The first step is to get the technical details taken care of and off the table so that they no longer hinder you, but that's only the preliminary requirement. Training your eyes takes your whole life, you're never "done."

                          You also gotta be very comfortable with failure. πŸ˜„ About one out of fifty photos I take I actually keep. That ratio hasn't gotten better over timeβ€”it's just that the ones I keep have gotten better. In fact, I can't tell you how many times I've gone out for an entire day, walking for miles with the intention of taking photos, and the one good image I got all day came from the coffee shop I stopped at in the morning, or on the metro on the way home after a whole day of failures. It happens all the time. That's what makes it fun, though.

                          Do you develop your own film?

                          Yeah, but only a little. I have a lab box that I use to develop black and whites (easier process). You don't need a dark bag for those, but they're a bitch when you're developing more than one roll. If I triple down on film, I might get a paterson tank but for now, I send most of my stuff to a lab and develop the easy stuff at home if I don't have too many rolls.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            6 Apr 2021, 14:48

                            @friday said in My lazy day:

                            @aqua-letifer

                            Catching the right light was always so frustrating for me. It was one of the main reasons why I stopped taking pictures. That, and I wasn't very good at it.

                            Yeah, it's a funny thing. Photography has nothing to do with the technical stuff, even though that's all middle-age white guys want to obsess over. It's all about training your eyes to see. That sounds kinda "woo," but that's literally what it is. The first step is to get the technical details taken care of and off the table so that they no longer hinder you, but that's only the preliminary requirement. Training your eyes takes your whole life, you're never "done."

                            You also gotta be very comfortable with failure. πŸ˜„ About one out of fifty photos I take I actually keep. That ratio hasn't gotten better over timeβ€”it's just that the ones I keep have gotten better. In fact, I can't tell you how many times I've gone out for an entire day, walking for miles with the intention of taking photos, and the one good image I got all day came from the coffee shop I stopped at in the morning, or on the metro on the way home after a whole day of failures. It happens all the time. That's what makes it fun, though.

                            Do you develop your own film?

                            Yeah, but only a little. I have a lab box that I use to develop black and whites (easier process). You don't need a dark bag for those, but they're a bitch when you're developing more than one roll. If I triple down on film, I might get a paterson tank but for now, I send most of my stuff to a lab and develop the easy stuff at home if I don't have too many rolls.

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                            xenon
                            wrote on 6 Apr 2021, 20:43 last edited by
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                            @aqua-letifer said in My lazy day:

                            The first step is to get the technical details taken care of and off the table so that they no longer hinder you, but that's only the preliminary requirement. Training your eyes takes your whole life, you're never "done."

                            Yeah - I'm not good at photography. (and quite bad technically). But I do have a decent mirrorless.

                            Some of my best shots are technically bad, but with good composition.

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                            • X xenon
                              6 Apr 2021, 20:43

                              @aqua-letifer said in My lazy day:

                              The first step is to get the technical details taken care of and off the table so that they no longer hinder you, but that's only the preliminary requirement. Training your eyes takes your whole life, you're never "done."

                              Yeah - I'm not good at photography. (and quite bad technically). But I do have a decent mirrorless.

                              Some of my best shots are technically bad, but with good composition.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 6 Apr 2021, 21:23 last edited by
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                              @xenon said in My lazy day:

                              But I do have a decent mirrorless.

                              Which one? (Because c'mon, the gear stuff is damn fun. πŸ˜„)

                              Another thing: there's a massive difference between being a proactive photographer (portraiture, landscapes, etc.) and a reactive photographer (street photography, documentary, etc.)

                              Proactive photographers create a scene. They have in their heads what they want the photo to be, and they make it happen. I absolutely suck at this and I'm not even interested in getting better.

                              Reactive photographers train their eyes to see what's there. That suits me a whole lot better. I don't go out and say, "okay, I wanna take pictures of X/this kind of shot." Every time I do that, literally every time, the photos come out crap. I gotta just go out, have fun taking a stroll, try to notice, and use what I've learned to make the best photo I can out of that. It's the only way I've found that actually works for me.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 6 Apr 2021, 22:33 last edited by
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                                I used to be quite good in the days of film. Even had a darkroom. I'm afraid digitals have ruined my eye.

                                β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  6 Apr 2021, 22:33

                                  I used to be quite good in the days of film. Even had a darkroom. I'm afraid digitals have ruined my eye.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 6 Apr 2021, 23:53 last edited by
                                  #29

                                  @mik said in My lazy day:

                                  I used to be quite good in the days of film. Even had a darkroom. I'm afraid digitals have ruined my eye.

                                  Get you an AE-1 or something, c'mon man! πŸ˜„

                                  Have any photos from then?

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • A Aqua Letifer
                                    6 Apr 2021, 23:53

                                    @mik said in My lazy day:

                                    I used to be quite good in the days of film. Even had a darkroom. I'm afraid digitals have ruined my eye.

                                    Get you an AE-1 or something, c'mon man! πŸ˜„

                                    Have any photos from then?

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 6 Apr 2021, 23:57 last edited by George K 4 Jun 2021, 23:59
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                                    @aqua-letifer said in My lazy day:

                                    @mik said in My lazy day:

                                    I used to be quite good in the days of film. Even had a darkroom.

                                    My father set up an ad-hoc darkroom in the master bath. This is in the mid 1960s. He taught me all kinds of stuff about developing your own film. He had a 2 ΒΌ Hasselblad and a 2 ΒΌ Rolleiflex, irrc. It looked something like this:

                                    alt text

                                    When I went to Europe, I shot (I think) Kodachrome slide film on my Pentax 125 camera (no flash, no auto-focus, no light meter). I remember processing those rolls and rolls of film in that bathroom.

                                    Still have the slides.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • G George K
                                      6 Apr 2021, 23:57

                                      @aqua-letifer said in My lazy day:

                                      @mik said in My lazy day:

                                      I used to be quite good in the days of film. Even had a darkroom.

                                      My father set up an ad-hoc darkroom in the master bath. This is in the mid 1960s. He taught me all kinds of stuff about developing your own film. He had a 2 ΒΌ Hasselblad and a 2 ΒΌ Rolleiflex, irrc. It looked something like this:

                                      alt text

                                      When I went to Europe, I shot (I think) Kodachrome slide film on my Pentax 125 camera (no flash, no auto-focus, no light meter). I remember processing those rolls and rolls of film in that bathroom.

                                      Still have the slides.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 7 Apr 2021, 00:00 last edited by
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                                      Rolliflexes are bad ass.

                                      @george-k said in My lazy day:

                                      Still have the slides.

                                      Dude! Share 'em, that'd be awesome!

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • A Aqua Letifer
                                        7 Apr 2021, 00:00

                                        Rolliflexes are bad ass.

                                        @george-k said in My lazy day:

                                        Still have the slides.

                                        Dude! Share 'em, that'd be awesome!

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 7 Apr 2021, 00:07 last edited by
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                                        @aqua-letifer said in My lazy day:

                                        Dude! Share 'em,

                                        Here's a sample. I have to find the others....

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                                        Zillertal Bimmelbahn.jpeg

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 7 Apr 2021, 00:19 last edited by
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                                          Wow, those are great. Where were those taken? (And what camera?)

                                          Please love yourself.

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