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    Axtremus
    wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 07:04 last edited by
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    Taiwan: At least 34 killed after train derails inside tunnel
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56612248

    Probably the most fatal in Taiwan history.

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      George K
      wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 12:30 last edited by George K 4 Feb 2021, 12:31
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      Terrible.

      smashed windows to flee.

      All public (heavy) rail transportation in the US has windows which are removable by the passenger.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 12:39 last edited by
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        Oh, that's awful. Train crashes always look so dreadful.

        I was only joking

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          George K
          wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 14:12 last edited by
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          Found a pic from my travel. Here's a close-up of the break-away window on an Amtrak Superliner:

          Screen Shot 2021-04-02 at 9.09.27 AM.png

          Pull the red handle, and the entire gasket which holds the window in place peels away, releasing the window.

          Also, there's no way you could break that window to escape. They are hardened against looters, vandals, and other miscreants.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Copper
            wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:31 last edited by Copper 4 Feb 2021, 15:31
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            In high school it was fun to open those on bus windows. These were public transportation busses, but were only ridden by high school students.

            You could flap the windows like a bird's wings.

            Once you got several windows flapping the bus was really a sight, it was funny.

            Of course, the driver hated it.

            One day the driver pulled the bus into a police station with all the windows flapping, the passengers disappeared very quickly.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:36 last edited by
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              I seem to remember trains in the UK having emergency hammers that could be used to break the windows.

              I was only joking

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                2 Apr 2021, 15:36

                I seem to remember trains in the UK having emergency hammers that could be used to break the windows.

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                Copper
                wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:39 last edited by
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                @doctor-phibes said in Taiwan Train Derailment Kills 34:

                I seem to remember trains in the UK having emergency hammers that could be used to break the windows.

                I owned an airplane that came with an emergency hammer. I had no faith that it would break the plexiglass, it was just too light. But I never tested it.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:42 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Feb 2021, 15:43
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                  I think the hammers are essentially a point, like a stilletto, so they break the toughened glass.

                  I once had to kick my car windshield out after rolling the car, and ending up in the middle of the road, with the car on its side. It popped out surprisingly easily, although I suspect (hope!) that railway carriage windows are a little stronger.

                  I was only joking

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 3 Apr 2021, 15:19 last edited by
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                    They arrested the driver of the truck that he allowed to slip down the hill to the railroad tracks.

                    Construction area safety is not very good in Taiwan. Better than in some places, but not as good as in others.

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                      3 Apr 2021, 15:19

                      They arrested the driver of the truck that he allowed to slip down the hill to the railroad tracks.

                      Construction area safety is not very good in Taiwan. Better than in some places, but not as good as in others.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 3 Apr 2021, 15:23 last edited by
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                      @taiwan_girl said in Taiwan Train Derailment Kills 34:

                      They arrested the driver

                      Wasn't the accident the result of his failure to properly engage the parking/emergency brake?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        3 Apr 2021, 15:23

                        @taiwan_girl said in Taiwan Train Derailment Kills 34:

                        They arrested the driver

                        Wasn't the accident the result of his failure to properly engage the parking/emergency brake?

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                        wrote on 3 Apr 2021, 15:31 last edited by
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                        @george-k said in Taiwan Train Derailment Kills 34:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Taiwan Train Derailment Kills 34:

                        They arrested the driver

                        Wasn't the accident the result of his failure to properly engage the parking/emergency brake?

                        Yes. That is what they are saying.

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