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    Jolly
    wrote on 31 Mar 2021, 17:23 last edited by
    #1

    Gutfeld.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/fox-news-targets-late-night-shows-with-gutfeld-hollywood-billboard-new-ad-campaign/ar-BB1f8MiQ?ocid=msedgntp

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Jolly
      wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 14:38 last edited by
      #2

      Reason?

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      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        2 Apr 2021, 14:38

        Reason?

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 14:47 last edited by
        #3

        @jolly said in Rising Star:

        Reason?

        There's one of him and four lefties, so he's going to do well, for the same reason that Fox do. There's no competition if you want to watch somebody who's funny and right-wing.

        I was only joking

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          Horace
          wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:26 last edited by
          #4

          The right is more homogeneous, and no I don't mean by skin color. Just by ideas and values.

          The coalition of the left is comprised of high status supercilious white douche bags and the various underclasses they have nothing in common with. There are few underclass Democrat voters watching The Late Show. On the other hand, conservative ideas appeal across the classes.

          Education is extremely important.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:29 last edited by
            #5

            Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

            The Brad

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            • H Horace
              2 Apr 2021, 15:26

              The right is more homogeneous, and no I don't mean by skin color. Just by ideas and values.

              The coalition of the left is comprised of high status supercilious white douche bags and the various underclasses they have nothing in common with. There are few underclass Democrat voters watching The Late Show. On the other hand, conservative ideas appeal across the classes.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:29 last edited by
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              @horace said in Rising Star:

              The coalition of the left is comprised of high status supercilious white douche bags and the various underclasses they have nothing in common with.

              Not that you're being judgmental or anything 😆

              I was only joking

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                2 Apr 2021, 15:29

                @horace said in Rising Star:

                The coalition of the left is comprised of high status supercilious white douche bags and the various underclasses they have nothing in common with.

                Not that you're being judgmental or anything 😆

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                Horace
                wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 15:37 last edited by
                #7

                @doctor-phibes said in Rising Star:

                @horace said in Rising Star:

                The coalition of the left is comprised of high status supercilious white douche bags and the various underclasses they have nothing in common with.

                Not that you're being judgmental or anything 😆

                I'm a realist about the fact that I'm judgmental. It's one of the many reasons I'm a refreshing change of pace from the average douche bag.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  2 Apr 2021, 15:29

                  Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 16:33 last edited by
                  #8

                  @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                  Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                  Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    2 Apr 2021, 16:33

                    @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                    Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                    Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 16:34 last edited by
                    #9

                    @jolly said in Rising Star:

                    @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                    Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                    Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

                    As opposed to Trevor Noah. Whose writers, admittedly, can be pretty funny at times.

                    Trevor got the job for reasons other than being funny.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • J Jolly
                      2 Apr 2021, 16:33

                      @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                      Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                      Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 16:44 last edited by
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                      @jolly said in Rising Star:

                      @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                      Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                      Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

                      Bill Maher can be very funny at times. He's still a d-bag.

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        2 Apr 2021, 16:44

                        @jolly said in Rising Star:

                        @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                        Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                        Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

                        Bill Maher can be very funny at times. He's still a d-bag.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 16:48 last edited by
                        #11

                        @doctor-phibes said in Rising Star:

                        @jolly said in Rising Star:

                        @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                        Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                        Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

                        Bill Maher can be very funny at times. He's still a d-bag.

                        "Everybody is a d-bag" is the ultimate evolution of judgmentalism.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • H Horace
                          2 Apr 2021, 16:48

                          @doctor-phibes said in Rising Star:

                          @jolly said in Rising Star:

                          @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                          Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                          Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

                          Bill Maher can be very funny at times. He's still a d-bag.

                          "Everybody is a d-bag" is the ultimate evolution of judgmentalism.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 16:51 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Feb 2021, 16:53
                          #12

                          @horace said in Rising Star:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Rising Star:

                          @jolly said in Rising Star:

                          @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                          Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                          Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

                          Bill Maher can be very funny at times. He's still a d-bag.

                          "Everybody is a d-bag" is the ultimate evolution of judgmentalism.

                          I didn't say everybody. I said Bill Maher. Try and focus. My point was that Bill Maher can be very funny, even if you don't like him. It's a gift.

                          There are plenty of comedians who aren't d-bags.

                          I was only joking

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            2 Apr 2021, 16:51

                            @horace said in Rising Star:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Rising Star:

                            @jolly said in Rising Star:

                            @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                            Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                            Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

                            Bill Maher can be very funny at times. He's still a d-bag.

                            "Everybody is a d-bag" is the ultimate evolution of judgmentalism.

                            I didn't say everybody. I said Bill Maher. Try and focus. My point was that Bill Maher can be very funny, even if you don't like him. It's a gift.

                            There are plenty of comedians who aren't d-bags.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 16:57 last edited by
                            #13

                            @doctor-phibes said in Rising Star:

                            @horace said in Rising Star:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Rising Star:

                            @jolly said in Rising Star:

                            @lufins-dad said in Rising Star:

                            Great. More anger and division. I’ll pass.

                            Actually, Gutfeld can be pretty funny at times....

                            Bill Maher can be very funny at times. He's still a d-bag.

                            "Everybody is a d-bag" is the ultimate evolution of judgmentalism.

                            I didn't say everybody. I said Bill Maher. Try and focus. My point was that Bill Maher can be very funny, even if you don't like him. It's a gift.

                            There are plenty of comedians who aren't d-bags.

                            And no political opinions.

                            Speaking for myself, I'm not aware of a comedian who takes a political stand in their act who is a) among my favorites or b) not a d-bag

                            There are funny guys who are also angry leftists in their acts (David Cross and Patton Oswalt spring to mind), and at least one angry rightist (Nick DiPaolo), but all my favorite comedians, while most have their political opinions, don't put them in their act. Trevor Noah and Maher do, because it's what they're paid for.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 17:11 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Feb 2021, 17:12
                              #14

                              Politics is very funny, partisanship much less so. Same thing goes for religion.

                              Comedians doing serious politics isn't as bad as politicians doing comedy, but it's close.

                              Comedians laughing at politicians can be very funny, but it starts being a lot less so when they become angry about it.

                              It seems to me that of late the late night comedy shows have become much more partisan, and nowhere near as good.

                              I was only joking

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 17:59 last edited by
                                #15

                                I really don't recall Carson doing much of anything political. Leno either. Letterman did some, but it was more making fun of everyone. He did a lot more local politics as well...

                                The Brad

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 18:02 last edited by
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                                  Back in the day, Robin Williams, just to take an example, would laugh at politicians, but it was never angry, or particularly partisan.

                                  Politics is funny, after all.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 18:07 last edited by
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                                    That's just it. There was a little bit of gentle teasing of everyone and it was mostly in fun. Now that I think about it, I do seem to recall a story about Carson being a little rough on Nixon, but when he found out that Nixon was actually taking it personally, Carson cut it and told his writers something to the extent of not taking it far on anybody unless you'd be willing to take the same jokes about yourself in that position...

                                    The Brad

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 2 Apr 2021, 18:10 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Feb 2021, 18:11
                                      #18

                                      Ian Hislop, the British satirist, broadcaster and editor of the magazine Private Eye, can be brutal in his takedowns of politicians, but he goes after any of them who he feels deserve it, regardless of party.

                                      And he does it without frothing at the mouth, even when the points he makes can be deadly serious.

                                      I was only joking

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