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    Loki
    wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 13:20 last edited by
    #1

    https://hoiabc.com/2021/03/30/millennial-money-prepare-for-covid-medical-bills-this-year/

    Shots are free, treatment costs. What a great plan!

    You are free not to vaccinate but society does not have to accommodate you. Stay home and pay for your treatment, love principle centered people.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 13:42 last edited by
      #2

      Good luck on that one...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Mik
        wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 13:45 last edited by
        #3

        'Nice savings account you got there. Shame if something should happen to it.'.

        No thanks.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • L Loki
          30 Mar 2021, 13:20

          https://hoiabc.com/2021/03/30/millennial-money-prepare-for-covid-medical-bills-this-year/

          Shots are free, treatment costs. What a great plan!

          You are free not to vaccinate but society does not have to accommodate you. Stay home and pay for your treatment, love principle centered people.

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          Copper
          wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 16:20 last edited by
          #4

          @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

          society does not have to accommodate you.

          Society?

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 17:26 last edited by
            #5

            I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

            Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

            The Brad

            D 1 Reply Last reply 30 Mar 2021, 17:29
            • L LuFins Dad
              30 Mar 2021, 17:26

              I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

              Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 17:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes
              #6

              @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

              I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

              Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

              The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking. There should be consequences for refusing vaccination, unless there's a genuine reason for doing so.

              I was only joking

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                Mik
                wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 17:32 last edited by
                #7

                There's a big difference between 'you can't do this here' and 'you have to let us inject you with this stuff'.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  30 Mar 2021, 17:29

                  @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                  I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

                  Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

                  The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking. There should be consequences for refusing vaccination, unless there's a genuine reason for doing so.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 17:34 last edited by
                  #8

                  @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                  @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                  I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

                  Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

                  The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking.

                  You’re wrong. Every single vaccine on the market is showing 100% effectiveness against serious cases and death. 100%. You are putting nobody else at risk except yourself and others choosing to accept that same risk. Period.

                  Beyond that, if the goal is to get needles in the arm, threats aren’t going to work. You will actually have fewer people get vaccinated that way.

                  The Brad

                  D 1 Reply Last reply 30 Mar 2021, 17:51
                  • L LuFins Dad
                    30 Mar 2021, 17:34

                    @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                    @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                    I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

                    Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

                    The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking.

                    You’re wrong. Every single vaccine on the market is showing 100% effectiveness against serious cases and death. 100%. You are putting nobody else at risk except yourself and others choosing to accept that same risk. Period.

                    Beyond that, if the goal is to get needles in the arm, threats aren’t going to work. You will actually have fewer people get vaccinated that way.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 17:51 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #9

                    @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                    @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                    I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

                    Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

                    The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking.

                    You’re wrong. Every single vaccine on the market is showing 100% effectiveness against serious cases and death. 100%. You are putting nobody else at risk except yourself and others choosing to accept that same risk. Period.

                    Beyond that, if the goal is to get needles in the arm, threats aren’t going to work. You will actually have fewer people get vaccinated that way.

                    What about people who can't get vaccinated due to health issues? If you don't get vaccinated, aren't you putting them at risk?

                    What about future variants which are almost likely to have more resistance to the vaccinations?

                    We already require children to have the flu vaccine in school. This is worse than the flu.

                    I was only joking

                    L C 2 Replies Last reply 30 Mar 2021, 18:35
                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      30 Mar 2021, 17:51

                      @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                      @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                      I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

                      Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

                      The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking.

                      You’re wrong. Every single vaccine on the market is showing 100% effectiveness against serious cases and death. 100%. You are putting nobody else at risk except yourself and others choosing to accept that same risk. Period.

                      Beyond that, if the goal is to get needles in the arm, threats aren’t going to work. You will actually have fewer people get vaccinated that way.

                      What about people who can't get vaccinated due to health issues? If you don't get vaccinated, aren't you putting them at risk?

                      What about future variants which are almost likely to have more resistance to the vaccinations?

                      We already require children to have the flu vaccine in school. This is worse than the flu.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 18:35 last edited by LuFins Dad
                      #10

                      @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                      @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                      @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                      I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

                      Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

                      The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking.

                      You’re wrong. Every single vaccine on the market is showing 100% effectiveness against serious cases and death. 100%. You are putting nobody else at risk except yourself and others choosing to accept that same risk. Period.

                      Beyond that, if the goal is to get needles in the arm, threats aren’t going to work. You will actually have fewer people get vaccinated that way.

                      What about people who can't get vaccinated due to health issues? If you don't get vaccinated, aren't you putting them at risk?

                      What about future variants which are almost likely to have more resistance to the vaccinations?

                      We already require children to have the flu vaccine in school. This is worse than the flu.

                      I don’t have the time to answer this in depth. All I will say is that if you want to get needles in arms, making it mandatory will not work. I’m surprised we’re still having this conversation after the whole masking debate. Yes, masks help. No, mask mandates do not help... The more you push mandatory vaccinations, the harder theee people will resist.

                      The Brad

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 19:19 last edited by
                        #11

                        I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          30 Mar 2021, 19:19

                          I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 19:39 last edited by
                          #12

                          @mik said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                          I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

                          Resistance is definitely fading. The surveys show it. It’s time however for those who actively resist it to see what their life will look like. Of course there will be exceptions and of course people will game the exceptions, no need to obsess on the edge conditions as this just filibustering.

                          My take is if you feel so strongly on your principles then be willing to pay the 1000 times the cost for treatment as well as restricted movement in society.

                          I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

                          C J 2 Replies Last reply 30 Mar 2021, 21:16
                          • L LuFins Dad
                            30 Mar 2021, 18:35

                            @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                            @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                            @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                            I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

                            Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

                            The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking.

                            You’re wrong. Every single vaccine on the market is showing 100% effectiveness against serious cases and death. 100%. You are putting nobody else at risk except yourself and others choosing to accept that same risk. Period.

                            Beyond that, if the goal is to get needles in the arm, threats aren’t going to work. You will actually have fewer people get vaccinated that way.

                            What about people who can't get vaccinated due to health issues? If you don't get vaccinated, aren't you putting them at risk?

                            What about future variants which are almost likely to have more resistance to the vaccinations?

                            We already require children to have the flu vaccine in school. This is worse than the flu.

                            I don’t have the time to answer this in depth. All I will say is that if you want to get needles in arms, making it mandatory will not work. I’m surprised we’re still having this conversation after the whole masking debate. Yes, masks help. No, mask mandates do not help... The more you push mandatory vaccinations, the harder theee people will resist.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 20:35 last edited by
                            #13

                            @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                            @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                            @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                            I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

                            Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

                            The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking.

                            You’re wrong. Every single vaccine on the market is showing 100% effectiveness against serious cases and death. 100%. You are putting nobody else at risk except yourself and others choosing to accept that same risk. Period.

                            Beyond that, if the goal is to get needles in the arm, threats aren’t going to work. You will actually have fewer people get vaccinated that way.

                            What about people who can't get vaccinated due to health issues? If you don't get vaccinated, aren't you putting them at risk?

                            What about future variants which are almost likely to have more resistance to the vaccinations?

                            We already require children to have the flu vaccine in school. This is worse than the flu.

                            I don’t have the time to answer this in depth. All I will say is that if you want to get needles in arms, making it mandatory will not work. I’m surprised we’re still having this conversation after the whole masking debate. Yes, masks help. No, mask mandates do not help... The more you push mandatory vaccinations, the harder theee people will resist.

                            You're probably right. I'm just getting a little tired of being constantly reminded that I'm sharing a planet with a bunch of fucking idiots.

                            No offence to any idiots out there.

                            I was only joking

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              30 Mar 2021, 17:51

                              @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                              @lufins-dad said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                              I’ve been very vocal about my opposition to a vaccine passport and requirements to vaccinate.

                              Scaling back coverage is the wrong way to go. Raising premiums? That I’m good with. Set the premiums at the same level you would a smoker...

                              The problem with refusing vaccination is that it's not just you that you're putting at risk. They've banned smoking in most public places to avoid the dangers of passive smoking.

                              You’re wrong. Every single vaccine on the market is showing 100% effectiveness against serious cases and death. 100%. You are putting nobody else at risk except yourself and others choosing to accept that same risk. Period.

                              Beyond that, if the goal is to get needles in the arm, threats aren’t going to work. You will actually have fewer people get vaccinated that way.

                              What about people who can't get vaccinated due to health issues? If you don't get vaccinated, aren't you putting them at risk?

                              What about future variants which are almost likely to have more resistance to the vaccinations?

                              We already require children to have the flu vaccine in school. This is worse than the flu.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 21:14 last edited by
                              #14

                              @doctor-phibes said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                              What about people who can't get vaccinated due to health issues? If you don't get vaccinated, aren't you putting them at risk?

                              The percentage of people actually at risk for that must be measured several places right of the decimal point.

                              Off the top of my head I'd guess about a million times less likely than getting hit by lightning.

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                              • L Loki
                                30 Mar 2021, 19:39

                                @mik said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

                                Resistance is definitely fading. The surveys show it. It’s time however for those who actively resist it to see what their life will look like. Of course there will be exceptions and of course people will game the exceptions, no need to obsess on the edge conditions as this just filibustering.

                                My take is if you feel so strongly on your principles then be willing to pay the 1000 times the cost for treatment as well as restricted movement in society.

                                I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 21:16 last edited by
                                #15

                                @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

                                The additional tax paid because of covid vaccine resistors can't be more than a few pennies.

                                It is certainly trillions and trillions of dollars less the cost of fat people who eat too much.

                                Cut off the fat people first.

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                                • C Copper
                                  30 Mar 2021, 21:16

                                  @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                  I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

                                  The additional tax paid because of covid vaccine resistors can't be more than a few pennies.

                                  It is certainly trillions and trillions of dollars less the cost of fat people who eat too much.

                                  Cut off the fat people first.

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 21:44 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @copper said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                  @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                  I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

                                  The additional tax paid because of covid vaccine resistors can't be more than a few pennies.

                                  It is certainly trillions and trillions of dollars less the cost of fat people who eat too much.

                                  Cut off the fat people first.

                                  Why are you so interested in the rights of vaccine deniers? I don’t get it.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 23:56 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    Mostly because I think it is nobody’s business

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                                    • L Loki
                                      30 Mar 2021, 19:39

                                      @mik said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                      I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

                                      Resistance is definitely fading. The surveys show it. It’s time however for those who actively resist it to see what their life will look like. Of course there will be exceptions and of course people will game the exceptions, no need to obsess on the edge conditions as this just filibustering.

                                      My take is if you feel so strongly on your principles then be willing to pay the 1000 times the cost for treatment as well as restricted movement in society.

                                      I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 31 Mar 2021, 00:18 last edited by Jolly
                                      #18

                                      @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                      @mik said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                      I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

                                      Resistance is definitely fading. The surveys show it. It’s time however for those who actively resist it to see what their life will look like. Of course there will be exceptions and of course people will game the exceptions, no need to obsess on the edge conditions as this just filibustering.

                                      My take is if you feel so strongly on your principles then be willing to pay the 1000 times the cost for treatment as well as restricted movement in society.

                                      I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

                                      About four miles from where I'm sitting, there is a multi-church singing meeting, a week from this Friday.

                                      Those folks would have no problem at all, telling you to piss up a rope. Nicely, and with the Love of Jesus in their heart, but piss up a rope is the definite action that will be suggested.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        31 Mar 2021, 00:18

                                        @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                        @mik said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                        I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

                                        Resistance is definitely fading. The surveys show it. It’s time however for those who actively resist it to see what their life will look like. Of course there will be exceptions and of course people will game the exceptions, no need to obsess on the edge conditions as this just filibustering.

                                        My take is if you feel so strongly on your principles then be willing to pay the 1000 times the cost for treatment as well as restricted movement in society.

                                        I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

                                        About four miles from where I'm sitting, there is a multi-church singing meeting, a week from this Friday.

                                        Those folks would have no problem at all, telling you to piss up a rope. Nicely, and with the Love of Jesus in their heart, but piss up a rope is the definite action that will be suggested.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 31 Mar 2021, 00:49 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @jolly said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                        @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                        @mik said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                        I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

                                        Resistance is definitely fading. The surveys show it. It’s time however for those who actively resist it to see what their life will look like. Of course there will be exceptions and of course people will game the exceptions, no need to obsess on the edge conditions as this just filibustering.

                                        My take is if you feel so strongly on your principles then be willing to pay the 1000 times the cost for treatment as well as restricted movement in society.

                                        I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

                                        About four miles from where I'm sitting, there is a multi-church singing meeting, a week from this Friday.

                                        Those folks would have no problem at all, telling you to piss up a rope. Nicely, and with the Love of Jesus in their heart, but piss up a rope is the definite action that will be suggested.

                                        And no empathy for the lives they put at risk by not being vaccinated and expecting best healthcare? I really do want to understand.

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                                        • L Loki
                                          31 Mar 2021, 00:49

                                          @jolly said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                          @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                          @mik said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                          I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

                                          Resistance is definitely fading. The surveys show it. It’s time however for those who actively resist it to see what their life will look like. Of course there will be exceptions and of course people will game the exceptions, no need to obsess on the edge conditions as this just filibustering.

                                          My take is if you feel so strongly on your principles then be willing to pay the 1000 times the cost for treatment as well as restricted movement in society.

                                          I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

                                          About four miles from where I'm sitting, there is a multi-church singing meeting, a week from this Friday.

                                          Those folks would have no problem at all, telling you to piss up a rope. Nicely, and with the Love of Jesus in their heart, but piss up a rope is the definite action that will be suggested.

                                          And no empathy for the lives they put at risk by not being vaccinated and expecting best healthcare? I really do want to understand.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 31 Mar 2021, 00:54 last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                          @jolly said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                          @loki said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                          @mik said in Another reason to vaccinate: you pay for treatment:

                                          I have to agree. Hopefully the resistance will fade over time as it may well become a social pressure thing. But trying to force it will not help. Mandate it where it is necessary like schools and healthcare facilities, but not a broad every citizen mandate.

                                          Resistance is definitely fading. The surveys show it. It’s time however for those who actively resist it to see what their life will look like. Of course there will be exceptions and of course people will game the exceptions, no need to obsess on the edge conditions as this just filibustering.

                                          My take is if you feel so strongly on your principles then be willing to pay the 1000 times the cost for treatment as well as restricted movement in society.

                                          I am not willing to pay higher taxes because of the resistors.

                                          About four miles from where I'm sitting, there is a multi-church singing meeting, a week from this Friday.

                                          Those folks would have no problem at all, telling you to piss up a rope. Nicely, and with the Love of Jesus in their heart, but piss up a rope is the definite action that will be suggested.

                                          And no empathy for the lives they put at risk by not being vaccinated and expecting best healthcare? I really do want to understand.

                                          Because they feel that it is their choice on whether to be vaccinated or not. Most will be, some won't. Some will have had COVID and feel they now have natural immunity.

                                          But all will agree that man cannot live in fear. If God decides your time is up, be prepared, because your time is up.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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