Doesn't pass the sniff test
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@jolly said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
What would you like to know?
Are there non-dealers at gun shows who sell guns?
If so, do they all require an ID and background check?
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@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
What would you like to know?
Are there non-dealers at gun shows who sell guns?
If so, do they all require an ID and background check?
There are private deals that happen at gun shows, usually in the parking lot. Or maybe later, at an individual's home. That's intrastate commerce and impossible to regulate, unless there are state laws requiring such. And then, it's still impossible to regulate.
There are no dealers at gun shows selling guns without completing a 4473 and a NICS.
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@jolly But, I have hear that anywhere from 25-40% of gun sales are private.
But, goes back to the original post - seems like a lot of focus on one guy who (may have) lied on his gun application and not enough focus on the 25-40% of people who buy guns with no ID or background check.
Are they equally as bad or is one worse than the other?
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@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly But, I have hear that anywhere from 25-40% of gun sales are private.
But, goes back to the original post - seems like a lot of focus on one guy who (may have) lied on his gun application and not enough focus on the 25-40% of people who buy guns with no ID or background check.
Are they equally as bad or is one worse than the other?
Why is a private sale bad?
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@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
a lot of focus on one guy who (may have) lied on his gun application and not enough focus
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That's a felony. You or I would go to prison. Your argument is similar to "a lot of focus on one drunk driver while ignoring all the other drivers who speed."
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Why was the Secret Service involved. This is under the jurisdiction of BATFE, isn't it? This, to me, is the interesting question.
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Link to video
Go to 1:10.
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Cheap ones.
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@jolly said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly But, I have hear that anywhere from 25-40% of gun sales are private.
But, goes back to the original post - seems like a lot of focus on one guy who (may have) lied on his gun application and not enough focus on the 25-40% of people who buy guns with no ID or background check.
Are they equally as bad or is one worse than the other?
Why is a private sale bad?
I dont think private sales are bad. Just wondering why they are treated differently public sales in terms of research and background required by the seller.
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@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly But, I have hear that anywhere from 25-40% of gun sales are private.
But, goes back to the original post - seems like a lot of focus on one guy who (may have) lied on his gun application and not enough focus on the 25-40% of people who buy guns with no ID or background check.
Are they equally as bad or is one worse than the other?
Why is a private sale bad?
I dont think private sales are bad. Just wondering why they are treated differently public sales in terms of research and background required by the seller.
How would you enforce the research and background check on a private sale?
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@jolly said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly But, I have hear that anywhere from 25-40% of gun sales are private.
But, goes back to the original post - seems like a lot of focus on one guy who (may have) lied on his gun application and not enough focus on the 25-40% of people who buy guns with no ID or background check.
Are they equally as bad or is one worse than the other?
Why is a private sale bad?
I dont think private sales are bad. Just wondering why they are treated differently public sales in terms of research and background required by the seller.
How would you enforce the research and background check on a private sale?
I have no idea. I am sure there is some method possible (maybe when you buy bullets, you have to have a check on you (I am guessing much less private sales of bullets than guns), maybe some type of free renewable license for guns (like a car license), etc)
I dont know but seems kind of weird that this happens in such large quantities. Imagine if 25-40% of people wanted to vote with no check on them!!
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@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@taiwan_girl said in Doesn't pass the sniff test:
@jolly But, I have hear that anywhere from 25-40% of gun sales are private.
But, goes back to the original post - seems like a lot of focus on one guy who (may have) lied on his gun application and not enough focus on the 25-40% of people who buy guns with no ID or background check.
Are they equally as bad or is one worse than the other?
Why is a private sale bad?
I dont think private sales are bad. Just wondering why they are treated differently public sales in terms of research and background required by the seller.
How would you enforce the research and background check on a private sale?
I have no idea. I am sure there is some method possible (maybe when you buy bullets, you have to have a check on you (I am guessing much less private sales of bullets than guns), maybe some type of free renewable license for guns (like a car license), etc)
I dont know but seems kind of weird that this happens in such large quantities. Imagine if 25-40% of people wanted to vote with no check on them!!
It's a private sale between two individuals. Try selling a pair of your shoes to your neighbor, but mandate a government background check.
Nobody is going to do that.