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World's smallest baton

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    I really like most of Shostakovich's symphonies. All except numbers 2 and 3. Even Shostakovich admitted they were failed experiments. But, I recently watched this performance of the 4th symphony which is an intense work.

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    I was struck by the conductor, Valery Gergiev, using which must be the world's smallest baton - a toothpick! I wonder whether the brass and percussion sections can even see it.

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      Interesting - I wonder what the (pardon the expression) point is?

      Rozhdestvensky was known for using a freakishly long baton.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Then there was Leopold Stokowski, no baton.

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        • George KG George K

          Interesting - I wonder what the (pardon the expression) point is?

          Rozhdestvensky was known for using a freakishly long baton.

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          @george-k said in World's smallest baton:

          Rozhdestvensky was known for using a freakishly long baton.

          Probably also drove a flashy sports car.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            Then there was Leopold Stokowski, no baton.

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            @axtremus said in World's smallest baton:

            Then there was Leopold Stokowski, no baton.

            He was post-op.

            Education is extremely important.

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              (https://www.npr.org/sections/deceptivecadence/2012/11/27/165677915/do-orchestras-really-need-conductors)

              From this study, the answer is that conductors do make a difference

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                @taiwan_girl Conductors matter, batons do not. It’s one of the most ridiculous pretensions of the orchestral world.

                Sure, there’s a theory and a technique, and you can take four years worth of classes to learn the techniques but ultimately they mean nothing. Most musicians can’t even see the baton in stage lighting. Choral directors don’t use them and can be much more effective with various hand gestures.

                The Brad

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                  You know what they say about conductors with small batons...

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                    You know what they say about conductors with small batons...

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                    @klaus said in World's smallest baton:

                    You know what they say about conductors with small batons...

                    Small gestures?

                    Please love yourself.

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