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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 14:56 last edited by
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    Send in a couple of requests for pricing/availability and suddenly my phone is blowing up with appointments. Not calls, not texts, not emails, but literally alerts telling me I need to leave in 15 minutes to make my appointment at ******** Subaru. I never scheduled an appointment at any of these places...

    The Brad

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 15:18 last edited by
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      That’s why I do the whole thing over the internet.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        24 Mar 2021, 15:18

        That’s why I do the whole thing over the internet.

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        Loki
        wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 15:41 last edited by
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        We are going to increasingly be living in algorithm hell for the next several years.

        This week Siri started sending me a “suggestion” to check on a certain stock. This I’m sure is just the beginning.

        Auto alerts are going to be more common than robo calls.

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        • L Loki
          24 Mar 2021, 15:41

          We are going to increasingly be living in algorithm hell for the next several years.

          This week Siri started sending me a “suggestion” to check on a certain stock. This I’m sure is just the beginning.

          Auto alerts are going to be more common than robo calls.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 16:35 last edited by
          #4

          @loki said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

          We are going to increasingly be living in algorithm hell for the next several years.

          This week Siri started sending me a “suggestion” to check on a certain stock. This I’m sure is just the beginning.

          Auto alerts are going to be more common than robo calls.

          Nah. There's always going to be a demand for devices that block this kind of messaging. On my phone, I don't have notifications, and Siri isn't activated.

          Please love yourself.

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            George K
            wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 17:53 last edited by
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            iOS 14 has a feature that blocks any call from someone not in your contact list. If it's a legit call, they'll leave a voicemail. If they don't leave a message, screw-em and they end up in the "blocked caller" file.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              24 Mar 2021, 16:35

              @loki said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

              We are going to increasingly be living in algorithm hell for the next several years.

              This week Siri started sending me a “suggestion” to check on a certain stock. This I’m sure is just the beginning.

              Auto alerts are going to be more common than robo calls.

              Nah. There's always going to be a demand for devices that block this kind of messaging. On my phone, I don't have notifications, and Siri isn't activated.

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              Klaus
              wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 18:02 last edited by
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              @aqua-letifer said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

              On my phone, I don't have notifications, and Siri isn't activated.

              👍

              Deactivating, Siri, Cortana, Google Assistant, or whatever its name is is the first thing I do on any electronic device.

              Then I usually try to find scripts or the like to de-bloat and de-crapify the device. For Windows, for instance, there's a good script. I also opt out of any tracking, personalized ads, ... . I disable all notifications except the ones I really want. Then add a good ad blocker for the browser and slowly the device approaches usability.

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              • K Klaus
                24 Mar 2021, 18:02

                @aqua-letifer said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                On my phone, I don't have notifications, and Siri isn't activated.

                👍

                Deactivating, Siri, Cortana, Google Assistant, or whatever its name is is the first thing I do on any electronic device.

                Then I usually try to find scripts or the like to de-bloat and de-crapify the device. For Windows, for instance, there's a good script. I also opt out of any tracking, personalized ads, ... . I disable all notifications except the ones I really want. Then add a good ad blocker for the browser and slowly the device approaches usability.

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                Loki
                wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 18:30 last edited by
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                @klaus said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                @aqua-letifer said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                On my phone, I don't have notifications, and Siri isn't activated.

                👍

                Deactivating, Siri, Cortana, Google Assistant, or whatever its name is is the first thing I do on any electronic device.

                Then I usually try to find scripts or the like to de-bloat and de-crapify the device. For Windows, for instance, there's a good script. I also opt out of any tracking, personalized ads, ... . I disable all notifications except the ones I really want. Then add a good ad blocker for the browser and slowly the device approaches usability.

                This is good but you kind of want to see what’s going on because every company is trying to take people out of the equation and using algorithms to drive not only click bait but now business.

                The paper world is going bye bye real fast.

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                • L Loki
                  24 Mar 2021, 18:30

                  @klaus said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                  @aqua-letifer said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                  On my phone, I don't have notifications, and Siri isn't activated.

                  👍

                  Deactivating, Siri, Cortana, Google Assistant, or whatever its name is is the first thing I do on any electronic device.

                  Then I usually try to find scripts or the like to de-bloat and de-crapify the device. For Windows, for instance, there's a good script. I also opt out of any tracking, personalized ads, ... . I disable all notifications except the ones I really want. Then add a good ad blocker for the browser and slowly the device approaches usability.

                  This is good but you kind of want to see what’s going on because every company is trying to take people out of the equation and using algorithms to drive not only click bait but now business.

                  The paper world is going bye bye real fast.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 18:52 last edited by
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                  @loki said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                  but you kind of want to see what’s going on

                  I really don't. 😄

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • L Loki
                    24 Mar 2021, 18:30

                    @klaus said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                    @aqua-letifer said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                    On my phone, I don't have notifications, and Siri isn't activated.

                    👍

                    Deactivating, Siri, Cortana, Google Assistant, or whatever its name is is the first thing I do on any electronic device.

                    Then I usually try to find scripts or the like to de-bloat and de-crapify the device. For Windows, for instance, there's a good script. I also opt out of any tracking, personalized ads, ... . I disable all notifications except the ones I really want. Then add a good ad blocker for the browser and slowly the device approaches usability.

                    This is good but you kind of want to see what’s going on because every company is trying to take people out of the equation and using algorithms to drive not only click bait but now business.

                    The paper world is going bye bye real fast.

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                    Klaus
                    wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 19:40 last edited by Klaus
                    #9

                    @loki said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                    The paper world is going bye bye real fast.

                    Not here. In Germany, it's considered "high tech" if we send each other fax instead of physical letters.

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                    • G George K
                      24 Mar 2021, 17:53

                      iOS 14 has a feature that blocks any call from someone not in your contact list. If it's a legit call, they'll leave a voicemail. If they don't leave a message, screw-em and they end up in the "blocked caller" file.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 19:52 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                      iOS 14 has a feature that blocks any call from someone not in your contact list. If it's a legit call, they'll leave a voicemail. If they don't leave a message, screw-em and they end up in the "blocked caller" file.

                      Precisely what I do.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 19:54 last edited by
                        #11

                        70% of my business comes through my mobile. I have to leave it open.

                        The Brad

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                        • K Klaus
                          24 Mar 2021, 19:40

                          @loki said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                          The paper world is going bye bye real fast.

                          Not here. In Germany, it's considered "high tech" if we send each other fax instead of physical letters.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 20:54 last edited by
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                          @klaus said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                          In Germany, it's considered "high tech" if we send each other fax

                          I'm reminded of @jon-nyc comments:

                          Person on the phone: "Can you fax that over to me please?"

                          Jon: "I'm sorry, I can't. I don't have fax where I am."

                          Person on the phone: "I see, where is that?"

                          Jon: "The twenty-first century."

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            24 Mar 2021, 19:54

                            70% of my business comes through my mobile. I have to leave it open.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 20:56 last edited by
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                            @lufins-dad said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                            70% of my business comes through my mobile. I have to leave it open.

                            Separate business number/phone?

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              24 Mar 2021, 15:18

                              That’s why I do the whole thing over the internet.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 21:11 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                              That’s why I do the whole thing over the internet.

                              Not that I'm in the market, and the last time I bought a car, 2 ½ years ago, it was from a "no-haggle" dealer who had exactly what I was looking for....

                              But, how, exactly, do you do "the whole thing over the internet?"

                              SIL is looking to replace his aging SUV, so I'd appreciate the tips.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 21:15 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc @George-K I have to try the cars out. Not just how it drives, but visibility and legroom.

                                The Brad

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                                  24 Mar 2021, 21:11

                                  @jon-nyc said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                                  That’s why I do the whole thing over the internet.

                                  Not that I'm in the market, and the last time I bought a car, 2 ½ years ago, it was from a "no-haggle" dealer who had exactly what I was looking for....

                                  But, how, exactly, do you do "the whole thing over the internet?"

                                  SIL is looking to replace his aging SUV, so I'd appreciate the tips.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 21:35 last edited by
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                                  @george-k said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                                  @jon-nyc said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                                  That’s why I do the whole thing over the internet.

                                  Not that I'm in the market, and the last time I bought a car, 2 ½ years ago, it was from a "no-haggle" dealer who had exactly what I was looking for....

                                  But, how, exactly, do you do "the whole thing over the internet?"

                                  SIL is looking to replace his aging SUV, so I'd appreciate the tips.

                                  https://www.carvana.com

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 21:39 last edited by
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                                    @aqua-letifer said in These car dealers are pretty slick:

                                    https://www.carvana.com

                                    Yeah, I know about Carvana, Truecar, and of course, Carmax.

                                    But how does it work with dealers? Presumably that's what Jon was talking about.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 23:09 last edited by
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                                      Dealers have a buy it online and we’ll deliver it to the door option.

                                      The Brad

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                                        xenon
                                        wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 23:09 last edited by xenon
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                                        I've bought 2 cars in the last 5 years.

                                        Both times I had already negotiated before walking into the showroom (over the internet and email)

                                        You can use tools like "TrueCar" to start getting quotes from various dealers - then you get a sense for what's fair and send best/final offers to dealers. Plus there are forums online where people post what they paid for specific models.

                                        For the van I bought, I told the dealer "I'll pay you $X for the car if I like it (with X down, etc.), I won't waste your time. I just want to come in and test drive it, if I like it, I'll buy it on the spot"

                                        I walked out with the number we had discussed (the financing department still tried to sell me all the add-ons and warranties).

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 23:33 last edited by
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                                          Yep. That's what I do, but usually in person. I do my research, decide what I want and then decide what I am willing to pay for it, tax, title, everything. i drive it and if I like it my offer is I will write you a check for this vehicle for this amount, all in. All I want to hear in response is a yes or a no. Anything else and I walk.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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