"Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so."
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If thousands of Satanists have their way, the Arkansas state capital will soon host a mystical winged goat idol, not far from an existing three-ton monument to the Ten Commandments.
In Minnesota they’ve sued to erect a statue they call “overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.” In Arizona they want to bless a City Council meeting, as they say theists have done for years.
Across the country, the Satanic Temple, an IRS-recognized atheist church with some 300,000 devotees, is waging a legal battle it says is for religious liberty, using tactics that have proved effective for Christian groups. The church, which preaches both empathy and the “freedom to offend,” has filed at least seven lawsuits in as many states, challenging the limits on what qualifies as religious expression. It says it’s looking for equal treatment in the public square. Its opponents say it’s just trolling Christianity and calling it a high-minded struggle for justice.
Lucien Greaves, who co-founded the church in 2013, says he hopes the lawsuits will expand religious equality and free speech in a way that benefits all Americans, whether they approve of his faith or not.
"Atheist Church?"
What????
@george-k said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
"Atheist Church?"
What????I'm a regular attendee at the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Last week I completely misunderstood the pastor when he exalted us to reveal our tentacles.
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Personally, I don't see why religious organizations should get benefits that the rest of us don't get.
There's nothing particularly special about god.
I was only joking
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Personally, I don't see why religious organizations should get benefits that the rest of us don't get.
There's nothing particularly special about god.
@doctor-phibes said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
There's nothing particularly special about god.
ORLY? You try to grow a beard like that.
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@doctor-phibes said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
There's nothing particularly special about god.
ORLY? You try to grow a beard like that.
@horace said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
@doctor-phibes said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
There's nothing particularly special about god.
ORLY? You try to grow a beard like that.
OK, admittedly that's pretty impressive for a woman, but apart from the beard....
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If thousands of Satanists have their way, the Arkansas state capital will soon host a mystical winged goat idol, not far from an existing three-ton monument to the Ten Commandments.
In Minnesota they’ve sued to erect a statue they call “overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.” In Arizona they want to bless a City Council meeting, as they say theists have done for years.
Across the country, the Satanic Temple, an IRS-recognized atheist church with some 300,000 devotees, is waging a legal battle it says is for religious liberty, using tactics that have proved effective for Christian groups. The church, which preaches both empathy and the “freedom to offend,” has filed at least seven lawsuits in as many states, challenging the limits on what qualifies as religious expression. It says it’s looking for equal treatment in the public square. Its opponents say it’s just trolling Christianity and calling it a high-minded struggle for justice.
Lucien Greaves, who co-founded the church in 2013, says he hopes the lawsuits will expand religious equality and free speech in a way that benefits all Americans, whether they approve of his faith or not.
"Atheist Church?"
What????
@george-k said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
If thousands of Satanists have their way, the Arkansas state capital will soon host a mystical winged goat idol, not far from an existing three-ton monument to the Ten Commandments.
In Minnesota they’ve sued to erect a statue they call “overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.” In Arizona they want to bless a City Council meeting, as they say theists have done for years.
Across the country, the Satanic Temple, an IRS-recognized atheist church with some 300,000 devotees, is waging a legal battle it says is for religious liberty, using tactics that have proved effective for Christian groups. The church, which preaches both empathy and the “freedom to offend,” has filed at least seven lawsuits in as many states, challenging the limits on what qualifies as religious expression. It says it’s looking for equal treatment in the public square. Its opponents say it’s just trolling Christianity and calling it a high-minded struggle for justice.
Lucien Greaves, who co-founded the church in 2013, says he hopes the lawsuits will expand religious equality and free speech in a way that benefits all Americans, whether they approve of his faith or not.
"Atheist Church?"
What????
Always said atheism is its own belief system...
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@george-k said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
If thousands of Satanists have their way, the Arkansas state capital will soon host a mystical winged goat idol, not far from an existing three-ton monument to the Ten Commandments.
In Minnesota they’ve sued to erect a statue they call “overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.” In Arizona they want to bless a City Council meeting, as they say theists have done for years.
Across the country, the Satanic Temple, an IRS-recognized atheist church with some 300,000 devotees, is waging a legal battle it says is for religious liberty, using tactics that have proved effective for Christian groups. The church, which preaches both empathy and the “freedom to offend,” has filed at least seven lawsuits in as many states, challenging the limits on what qualifies as religious expression. It says it’s looking for equal treatment in the public square. Its opponents say it’s just trolling Christianity and calling it a high-minded struggle for justice.
Lucien Greaves, who co-founded the church in 2013, says he hopes the lawsuits will expand religious equality and free speech in a way that benefits all Americans, whether they approve of his faith or not.
"Atheist Church?"
What????
Always said atheism is its own belief system...
@jolly said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
@george-k said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
If thousands of Satanists have their way, the Arkansas state capital will soon host a mystical winged goat idol, not far from an existing three-ton monument to the Ten Commandments.
In Minnesota they’ve sued to erect a statue they call “overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.” In Arizona they want to bless a City Council meeting, as they say theists have done for years.
Across the country, the Satanic Temple, an IRS-recognized atheist church with some 300,000 devotees, is waging a legal battle it says is for religious liberty, using tactics that have proved effective for Christian groups. The church, which preaches both empathy and the “freedom to offend,” has filed at least seven lawsuits in as many states, challenging the limits on what qualifies as religious expression. It says it’s looking for equal treatment in the public square. Its opponents say it’s just trolling Christianity and calling it a high-minded struggle for justice.
Lucien Greaves, who co-founded the church in 2013, says he hopes the lawsuits will expand religious equality and free speech in a way that benefits all Americans, whether they approve of his faith or not.
"Atheist Church?"
What????
Always said atheism is its own belief system...
That's only true of Orthodox Atheism. We in the more enlightened and forward-thinking group of The Rainbow-Atheist Alliance allow atheists of all types to join, irregardless of their particular lack of belief and/or complete lack of interest.
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Wow. Now there's a reason for the Lutherans and Catholics to join forces.
Pass the popcorn and the hotdish!
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Wow. Now there's a reason for the Lutherans and Catholics to join forces.
Pass the popcorn and the hotdish!
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Wow. Now there's a reason for the Lutherans and Catholics to join forces.
Pass the popcorn and the hotdish!
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Personally, I don't see why religious organizations should get benefits that the rest of us don't get.
There's nothing particularly special about god.
@doctor-phibes said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
Personally, I don't see why religious organizations should get benefits that the rest of us don't get.
There's nothing particularly special about god.
I agree.
I read somewhere that "more wars have been fought in the name of religion than anything else."
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Nobody ever went to war over Marmite, even though it tends to excite very strong emotions, both positive and negative.
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@doctor-phibes said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
Personally, I don't see why religious organizations should get benefits that the rest of us don't get.
There's nothing particularly special about god.
I agree.
I read somewhere that "more wars have been fought in the name of religion than anything else."
@taiwan_girl said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
@doctor-phibes said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
Personally, I don't see why religious organizations should get benefits that the rest of us don't get.
There's nothing particularly special about god.
I agree.
I read somewhere that "more wars have been fought in the name of religion than anything else."
I never liked that quote. It's a finger pointing to the moon.
We didn't invade Afghanistan over religion. Or Iraq. Or Korea. Or Vietnam. Or Normandy, for that matter.
Most wars start over deeply felt but incompatible ideologies. In the past, many of those ideologies were religion, but they don't have to be.
Please love yourself.
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In reality, religion is often just an excuse.
And if we're invading France, it's probably a good excuse.
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@taiwan_girl said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
@doctor-phibes said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
Personally, I don't see why religious organizations should get benefits that the rest of us don't get.
There's nothing particularly special about god.
I agree.
I read somewhere that "more wars have been fought in the name of religion than anything else."
I never liked that quote. It's a finger pointing to the moon.
We didn't invade Afghanistan over religion. Or Iraq. Or Korea. Or Vietnam. Or Normandy, for that matter.
Most wars start over deeply felt but incompatible ideologies. In the past, many of those ideologies were religion, but they don't have to be.
@aqua-letifer said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
@taiwan_girl said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
@doctor-phibes said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
Personally, I don't see why religious organizations should get benefits that the rest of us don't get.
There's nothing particularly special about god.
I agree.
I read somewhere that "more wars have been fought in the name of religion than anything else."
I never liked that quote. It's a finger pointing to the moon.
We didn't invade Afghanistan over religion. Or Iraq. Or Korea. Or Vietnam. Or Normandy, for that matter.
Most wars start over deeply felt but incompatible ideologies. In the past, many of those ideologies were religion, but they don't have to be.
Yes, I semi agree. Look at Afganistan. I believe that the US invaded because to the Taliban. Why did we want to stop the Taliban? Because they were imposing their strict brand of religion, which included promotion of terrorism.
I am not saying that the only cause was religion, but it was kind of a big reason.
But, it probably is like John D'Oh says - it is just an excuse to do or not do something.
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@aqua-letifer said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
@taiwan_girl said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
@doctor-phibes said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
Personally, I don't see why religious organizations should get benefits that the rest of us don't get.
There's nothing particularly special about god.
I agree.
I read somewhere that "more wars have been fought in the name of religion than anything else."
I never liked that quote. It's a finger pointing to the moon.
We didn't invade Afghanistan over religion. Or Iraq. Or Korea. Or Vietnam. Or Normandy, for that matter.
Most wars start over deeply felt but incompatible ideologies. In the past, many of those ideologies were religion, but they don't have to be.
Yes, I semi agree. Look at Afganistan. I believe that the US invaded because to the Taliban. Why did we want to stop the Taliban? Because they were imposing their strict brand of religion, which included promotion of terrorism.
I am not saying that the only cause was religion, but it was kind of a big reason.
But, it probably is like John D'Oh says - it is just an excuse to do or not do something.
@taiwan_girl said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
Why did we want to stop the Taliban? Because they were imposing their strict brand of religion, which included promotion of terrorism.
I would argue that we cared a great deal more about their complicity with the group that killed 2,977 civilians in a terrorist attack. The war in Afghanistan wasn't a religious war by any stretch from our perspective. We weren't trying to spread Christianity.
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@taiwan_girl said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
Why did we want to stop the Taliban? Because they were imposing their strict brand of religion, which included promotion of terrorism.
I would argue that we cared a great deal more about their complicity with the group that killed 2,977 civilians in a terrorist attack. The war in Afghanistan wasn't a religious war by any stretch from our perspective. We weren't trying to spread Christianity.
@aqua-letifer I agree with you 100% that the US would not care less about religion in Afganistan.
I was going back a step. The basis for the Taliban was religion. That was the "trunk" of the tree.
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@aqua-letifer I agree with you 100% that the US would not care less about religion in Afganistan.
I was going back a step. The basis for the Taliban was religion. That was the "trunk" of the tree.
@taiwan_girl said in "Overtly Satanic, but tastefully so.":
@aqua-letifer I agree with you 100% that the US would not care less about religion in Afganistan.
I was going back a step. The basis for the Taliban was religion. That was the "trunk" of the tree.
And if it was a religious war, it would be convert or die.
