Convicted of family violence
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https://thepostmillennial.com/rob-hoogland-canada-prisoner-of-conscience
There is a man in Canada who can only be alluded to as He Who Shall Not Be Named: Robert Hoogland. For the sake of natural justice, it is important to speak this man's name. He is now the Canadian state's prison of conscience.
The warrant was issued by a judge for the arrest of a father after calling his biological female child his "daughter," and referring to her with the pronouns "she" and "her." Hoogland was found to be in contempt of court.
Hoogland is a father to a gender non-conforming biological female 14-year-old who identifies as transgender and prefers the use of male pronouns. Hoogland has repeatedly called this person his daughter, though the court has forbade it.
On Tuesday at 10 am Vancouver time, Hoogland surrendered himself to the court in response to the Attorney General of British Columbia's warrant his arrest for contempt. He was the arrested and jailed. The warrant was issued by Judge Tammen on March 4, 2021.
Hoogland opposes his child's undergoing "gender affirmative" medical procedures, and has stated this opposition again and again, in the hope of saving his child from irreversible harm. The Canadian medical system, the legal system, and the child's mother press ahead with social and medical transition of the child.
On December 14, 2020, Hoogland was compelled by Justice Mazari's court to collude in the gender "transitioning" of his fourteen year old daughter and told not to call his biological female child his daughter. In response, Hoogland made a Charter challenge engaging his right to freedom of speech.
When he appeared in family court, the judge forced him to sit in the prisoners' dock, said Hoogland's lawyer Carey Lind said, even though he was guilty of no crime. The judge referred to him as "the accused." Lind made an application for the judge to recuse himself on the basis that all of this was prejudicial.
Hoogland told his story. The child had complex problems, but the court blamed them all on gender dysphoria. His marriage to the child's mother had broken up. He said that, in grades 5 and 6, his daughter was "getting into trouble and hanging out with boys," so they arranged for her to see the school counsellor. In grade 7, he noticed she cut off her long hair and started wearing a toupé. He said that she developed intense crushes on two male teachers, and made a suicide attempt.
Justice Mazari then summarily convicted Hoogland of family violence on the basis that he had declined to use his child's preferred masculine pronouns. Mazari authorized a warrant for Hoogland's arrest in the event that he ever used the correct sex pronouns to refer to his daughter again.
"In the Mazari ruling, it said that I can only think thoughts which are contrary to the Boden ruling. The court was gracious enough that they did not police my thoughts, but everything else they could," he said -
@copper said in Convicted of family violence:
those crazy democrats
You misspelled "Canadians."
@jon-nyc said in Convicted of family violence:
Petersons’s point about compelled speech.
Exactly.
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By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
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By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
I think it's an offshoot of our abject terror of thinking critically or honestly about "racism". Create the idea vacuum around one thing, and watch what else falls into that black hole.
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@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
I think it's an offshoot of our abject terror of thinking critically or honestly about "racism". Create the idea vacuum around one thing, and watch what else falls into that black hole.
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By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
Worthy of headshaking
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By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
We (i.e. The English) have always thought that Americans were barking mad. Basically, you're either Jack D. Ripper or you're The State of California. There's no middle ground.
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@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
We (i.e. The English) have always thought that Americans were barking mad. Basically, you're either Jack D. Ripper or you're The State of California. There's no middle ground.
@doctor-phibes said in Convicted of family violence:
@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
We (i.e. The English) have always thought that Americans were barking mad. Basically, you're either Jack D. Ripper or you're The State of California. There's no middle ground.
The sane people are in fly-over country.
Education is extremely important.
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@doctor-phibes said in Convicted of family violence:
@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
We (i.e. The English) have always thought that Americans were barking mad. Basically, you're either Jack D. Ripper or you're The State of California. There's no middle ground.
The sane people are in fly-over country.
@horace said in Convicted of family violence:
@doctor-phibes said in Convicted of family violence:
@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
We (i.e. The English) have always thought that Americans were barking mad. Basically, you're either Jack D. Ripper or you're The State of California. There's no middle ground.
The sane people are in fly-over country.
That's no shit.
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When you consider that 40% of the country live on the coast, that isn't very comforting.
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@doctor-phibes said in Convicted of family violence:
@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
We (i.e. The English) have always thought that Americans were barking mad. Basically, you're either Jack D. Ripper or you're The State of California. There's no middle ground.
The sane people are in fly-over country.
@horace said in Convicted of family violence:
@doctor-phibes said in Convicted of family violence:
@george-k said in Convicted of family violence:
By the way, I saw a story (can't find it now) that France (France!) and other nations are shaking their heads about the "wokeness" of the current American culture.
We (i.e. The English) have always thought that Americans were barking mad. Basically, you're either Jack D. Ripper or you're The State of California. There's no middle ground.
The sane people are in fly-over country.
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More to the story than what was presented. The jerk has had plenty of warnings about his behaviors and has repeatedly defied the courts.
To quote a couple of other's here, lock him up!
Frankly, I could care less about his alleged parental rights.
Elbows up!
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More to the story than what was presented. The jerk has had plenty of warnings about his behaviors and has repeatedly defied the courts.
To quote a couple of other's here, lock him up!
Frankly, I could care less about his alleged parental rights.
@renauda said in Convicted of family violence:
More to the story than what was presented. The jerk has had plenty of warnings about his behaviors and has repeatedly defied the courts.
To quote a couple of other's here, lock him up!
Frankly, I could care less about his alleged parental rights.
From the article:
The orders instruct him to not make public any information that would identify A.B., or the medical professionals involved, to call A.B. by the child’s preferred name and gender pronoun, and to not share his opinions of the case publicly.
I'm fine with the second order, not so much the others. I can understand the father's unwillingness to go along with them. The first order implies the last one.
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More to the story than what was presented. The jerk has had plenty of warnings about his behaviors and has repeatedly defied the courts.
To quote a couple of other's here, lock him up!
Frankly, I could care less about his alleged parental rights.
@renauda said in Convicted of family violence:
More to the story than what was presented. The jerk has had plenty of warnings about his behaviors and has repeatedly defied the courts.
To quote a couple of other's here, lock him up!
Frankly, I could care less about his alleged parental rights.
His parental rights are one thing. His abridgement of free speech is another.
In both cases, the court is wrong. Or, the law is.
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@renauda said in Convicted of family violence:
More to the story than what was presented. The jerk has had plenty of warnings about his behaviors and has repeatedly defied the courts.
To quote a couple of other's here, lock him up!
Frankly, I could care less about his alleged parental rights.
His parental rights are one thing. His abridgement of free speech is another.
In both cases, the court is wrong. Or, the law is.
@jolly said in Convicted of family violence:
His abridgement of free speech is another.
AFAIK, "Free speech" is a uniquely American concept, and it only applies to the government suppression of such. Look no farther than Facebook, Twitter, etc to see everyday suppression of "free speech." Totally legal and constitutional suppression.
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@renauda said in Convicted of family violence:
More to the story than what was presented. The jerk has had plenty of warnings about his behaviors and has repeatedly defied the courts.
To quote a couple of other's here, lock him up!
Frankly, I could care less about his alleged parental rights.
His parental rights are one thing. His abridgement of free speech is another.
In both cases, the court is wrong. Or, the law is.
@jolly said in Convicted of family violence:
His parental rights are one thing. His abridgement of free speech is another.
In both cases, the court is wrong. Or, the law is.Maybe, maybe not. But I doubt that either court or the law is wrong. In either case he has the right to appeal to a higher court.
In the meantime he must comply with the lower court rulings or face additional charges and jail time.
The only issue here is that he is currently in contempt of court.
We obviously do not share the same values in this and, I am sure, many other topics.
