Europe’s Vaccine Mess
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/briefing/blood-clots-oscar-nominees-opioid-purdue.html
It is the latest sign of the power of the Covid-19 vaccines: The number of new cases is declining, often sharply, in countries that have vaccinated a large share of residents.
That’s the situation in Israel, the United Arab Emirates and Britain. Cases are also declining in the U.S., which is not as far along as those three countries but is well ahead of most.
And on the other end of the spectrum is the European continent.
Across most of the European Union, vaccine rollout has been slow, and new cases are surging. Europe — the first place where the coronavirus caused widespread death — is facing the prospect of being one of the last places to emerge from its grip. My colleague Jason Horowitz writes from Rome: “Governments are putting exhausted populations under lockdown. Street protests are turning violent. A year after the virus began spreading in Europe, things feel unnervingly the same.”
As Eyck Freymann and Elettra Ardissino write in Foreign Policy: “Spring in the European Union is going to be dismal.” Bild, a German newspaper, recently ran the headline “Liebe Briten, We Beneiden You!” — a mixture of German and English that means “Dear Brits, We Envy You!” Wolfgang Münchau of Eurointelligence has said that Europe’s vaccination program rivals the continent’s budget austerity of recent years as “the E.U.’s worst policy error during my lifetime.”
Why has Europe done so poorly? There are three main reasons (edited).
- Too much bureaucracy (all nations have to agree)
- Penny-wise and pound-foolish (save costs by choosing cheaper vaccine)
- Vaccine skepticism (“Europe is the world’s epicenter of vaccine skepticism,” Deutsch and Wheaton of Politico Europe write. )
The bottom line: Over the summer, the U.S. was struggling more than any other country to contain Covid. Today, Europe appears to be in much worse shape.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/briefing/blood-clots-oscar-nominees-opioid-purdue.html
It is the latest sign of the power of the Covid-19 vaccines: The number of new cases is declining, often sharply, in countries that have vaccinated a large share of residents.
That’s the situation in Israel, the United Arab Emirates and Britain. Cases are also declining in the U.S., which is not as far along as those three countries but is well ahead of most.
And on the other end of the spectrum is the European continent.
Across most of the European Union, vaccine rollout has been slow, and new cases are surging. Europe — the first place where the coronavirus caused widespread death — is facing the prospect of being one of the last places to emerge from its grip. My colleague Jason Horowitz writes from Rome: “Governments are putting exhausted populations under lockdown. Street protests are turning violent. A year after the virus began spreading in Europe, things feel unnervingly the same.”
As Eyck Freymann and Elettra Ardissino write in Foreign Policy: “Spring in the European Union is going to be dismal.” Bild, a German newspaper, recently ran the headline “Liebe Briten, We Beneiden You!” — a mixture of German and English that means “Dear Brits, We Envy You!” Wolfgang Münchau of Eurointelligence has said that Europe’s vaccination program rivals the continent’s budget austerity of recent years as “the E.U.’s worst policy error during my lifetime.”
Why has Europe done so poorly? There are three main reasons (edited).
- Too much bureaucracy (all nations have to agree)
- Penny-wise and pound-foolish (save costs by choosing cheaper vaccine)
- Vaccine skepticism (“Europe is the world’s epicenter of vaccine skepticism,” Deutsch and Wheaton of Politico Europe write. )
The bottom line: Over the summer, the U.S. was struggling more than any other country to contain Covid. Today, Europe appears to be in much worse shape.
But but but Donald Trump was the worst in the world, that’s what the media told me every day about his handling of COVID.
People actually believed that In moment. Do they say now to themselves, oh yeah, that was a lie but such a good one to get him out of office? I mean how do they go so fast from hysterical fear and anger to oh that was a necessary lie?
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But but but Donald Trump was the worst in the world, that’s what the media told me every day about his handling of COVID.
People actually believed that In moment. Do they say now to themselves, oh yeah, that was a lie but such a good one to get him out of office? I mean how do they go so fast from hysterical fear and anger to oh that was a necessary lie?
@loki said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
But but but Donald Trump was the worst in the world, that’s what the media told me every day about his handling of COVID.
People actually believed that In moment. Do they say now to themselves, oh yeah, that was a lie but such a good one to get him out of office? I mean how do they go so fast from hysterical fear and anger to oh that was a necessary lie?
Media manipulation.
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@loki said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
But but but Donald Trump was the worst in the world, that’s what the media told me every day about his handling of COVID.
People actually believed that In moment. Do they say now to themselves, oh yeah, that was a lie but such a good one to get him out of office? I mean how do they go so fast from hysterical fear and anger to oh that was a necessary lie?
Media manipulation.
@jolly said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Media manipulation.
100,000 US deaths since Biden took office!
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@jolly said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Media manipulation.
100,000 US deaths since Biden took office!
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Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
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Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
Yeah, no kidding. I wrote something negative about that Brazilian idiot Balsonaro yesterday, and immediately got jumped on because apparently it demonstrated that I'm obsessed with Trump.
I'm forced to question where the obsession lies.
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Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
It sucks that all we heard is that the US sucked worst and now at the tail end we say just kidding Europe sucks worst. The ONLY variable that changed is who was our President, not even our activities.
You as a mathematician should appreciate that.
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@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
It sucks that all we heard is that the US sucked worst and now at the tail end we say just kidding Europe sucks worst. The ONLY variable that changed is who was our President, not even our activities.
You as a mathematician should appreciate that.
@loki said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
It sucks that all we heard is that the US sucked worst and now at the tail end we say just kidding Europe sucks worst. The ONLY variable that changed is who was our President, not even our activities.
You as a mathematician should appreciate that.
What I'm seeing is people whose only mental tool is a hammer which requires everything whatsoever to be a partisan nail. Maybe it is a symptom of grief over a lost election or something, I don't know. It surely is a little annoying. But for a change, why not pick a topic - maybe a cooking recipe, or a car discussion - and attempt to resist the urge to make it about Trump, at least for a few minutes?
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@loki said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
It sucks that all we heard is that the US sucked worst and now at the tail end we say just kidding Europe sucks worst. The ONLY variable that changed is who was our President, not even our activities.
You as a mathematician should appreciate that.
What I'm seeing is people whose only mental tool is a hammer which requires everything whatsoever to be a partisan nail. Maybe it is a symptom of grief over a lost election or something, I don't know. It surely is a little annoying. But for a change, why not pick a topic - maybe a cooking recipe, or a car discussion - and attempt to resist the urge to make it about Trump, at least for a few minutes?
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
But for a change, why not pick a topic - maybe a cooking recipe, or a car discussion - and attempt to resist the urge to make it about Trump, at least for a few minutes?
Great idea!
Let's talk hotels, which hotel would you prefer for a vacation?
- Trump International Hotel Waikiki
- Trump Turnberry, Scotland
- Trump National Doral Miami
- Trump International Hotel Las Vegas
- The Mar-a-Lago Club
He seems to like Mar-a-Lago, but this isn't about him, maybe I'll pick Scotland.
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@loki said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
It sucks that all we heard is that the US sucked worst and now at the tail end we say just kidding Europe sucks worst. The ONLY variable that changed is who was our President, not even our activities.
You as a mathematician should appreciate that.
What I'm seeing is people whose only mental tool is a hammer which requires everything whatsoever to be a partisan nail. Maybe it is a symptom of grief over a lost election or something, I don't know. It surely is a little annoying. But for a change, why not pick a topic - maybe a cooking recipe, or a car discussion - and attempt to resist the urge to make it about Trump, at least for a few minutes?
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
What I'm seeing is people whose only mental tool is a hammer which requires everything whatsoever to be a partisan nail. Maybe it is a symptom of grief over a lost election or something, I don't know. It surely is a little annoying. But for a change, why not pick a topic - maybe a cooking recipe, or a car discussion - and attempt to resist the urge to make it about Trump, at least for a few minutes?
I doubt that it is at all possible. That, or you are asking for too much of them.
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@loki said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
It sucks that all we heard is that the US sucked worst and now at the tail end we say just kidding Europe sucks worst. The ONLY variable that changed is who was our President, not even our activities.
You as a mathematician should appreciate that.
What I'm seeing is people whose only mental tool is a hammer which requires everything whatsoever to be a partisan nail. Maybe it is a symptom of grief over a lost election or something, I don't know. It surely is a little annoying. But for a change, why not pick a topic - maybe a cooking recipe, or a car discussion - and attempt to resist the urge to make it about Trump, at least for a few minutes?
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
@loki said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
It sucks that all we heard is that the US sucked worst and now at the tail end we say just kidding Europe sucks worst. The ONLY variable that changed is who was our President, not even our activities.
You as a mathematician should appreciate that.
What I'm seeing is people whose only mental tool is a hammer which requires everything whatsoever to be a partisan nail. Maybe it is a symptom of grief over a lost election or something, I don't know. It surely is a little annoying. But for a change, why not pick a topic - maybe a cooking recipe, or a car discussion - and attempt to resist the urge to make it about Trump, at least for a few minutes?
Ok but this is not about Trump. It’s about the credibility of our MSM. I can interpret what you are saying as let’s just ignore their manipulation of the truth.
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Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
It's time for some of you guys to stop thinking about Trump every three seconds.
@klaus said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
Apparently it's not even possible to discuss how Europe sucks without turning this into yet another debate about Trump.
I think you need to realize that for the next 50 years,
everything that happens in the US that is GOOD, is because of President Trump
everything that happens in the US that is BAD, is in spite of President Trumps best efforts and if he were still president, it would be good.
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What's the "EU approval rating" these days?
Do people think the EU has improved their lives? Is a European identity emerging?
@xenon said in Europe’s Vaccine Mess:
What's the "EU approval rating" these days?
Do people think the EU has improved their lives? Is a European identity emerging?
My personal EU approval rating is: Let's get THE HELL out of here.
But even though Corona has made a dent in the approval ratings, overall most people still support it.
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All the non-Americans on the forum are in complete agreement that the ridiculous Americans think too much about Trump. There is the chance that none of you are invested in American culture like Americans are. Trump was a massive part of our culture, and now the hypocrisy of the TDS sufferers, in the media and elswhere, deserves to be pointed out. Whether the non Americans find it tedious or not.
