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New network in progress...

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @mark said in New network in progress...:

    Now I want to separate the ioT network from the business network and lock everything down.

    Smart! 👍
    Security for consumer grade IoT stuff generally leaves much to be desired, so isolating them away from the important stuff is smart.

    I like the idea of a "mesh" network where the APs are integrated into one seamless WiFi network vs, the 5 that I have now.

    For 99% of regular users, and for those who cannot or do not know how to drill holes and string Ethernet cables throughout the house, the wireless “mesh” stuff is great! Though for power users like yourself, I’d still say that Gigabit Ethernet wins just about every time. So if you can, string Cat6 cables and hook each AP up to a Cat6 cable, and rely on wireless “mesh” only at places where you cannot or don’t want to bother with a Cat6 cable. Just put all all the APs in the same subnet and configure each to use the same SSID/password (and make sure they are in “bridge” mode where DHCP/NAT/routing should only be done by only one router/gateway) and you will have a “seamless” network.

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    @axtremus said in New network in progress...:

    @mark said in New network in progress...:

    Now I want to separate the ioT network from the business network and lock everything down.

    Smart! 👍
    Security for consumer grade IoT stuff generally leaves much to be desired, so isolating them away from the important stuff is smart.

    I like the idea of a "mesh" network where the APs are integrated into one seamless WiFi network vs, the 5 that I have now.

    For 99% of regular users, and for those who cannot or do not know how to drill holes and string Ethernet cables throughout the house, the wireless “mesh” stuff is great! Though for power users like yourself, I’d still say that Gigabit Ethernet wins just about every time. So if you can, string Cat6 cables and hook each AP up to a Cat6 cable, and rely on wireless “mesh” only at places where you cannot or don’t want to bother with a Cat6 cable. Just put all all the APs in the same subnet and configure each to use the same SSID/password (and make sure they are in “bridge” mode where DHCP/NAT/routing should only be done by only one router/gateway) and you will have a “seamless” network.

    That is the plan! Thanks. I am pricing new Cat6a cabling. I have an RJ45 crimping tool and end to end testing equipment. I used to run custom cabling for my customers. I will be running new Cat6a everywhere there is Cat5 currently.

    I would like to do the same for the plumbing in this house. lol

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      #12

      Ordered the UDM Pro, an 8 port switch with 4 PoE ports, 2 WiFi 6 Long Range Access Points and a doorbell. $1,100 including taxes and "free" shipping.

      I will have 2 available PoE ports for Access Point upgrades or cameras. I can always expand if needed.

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        #13

        View from the Front Door G4 Camera...

        Screenshot-20210330-084932-Uni-Fi-Protect.jpg

        It has custom motion zones, automatic recording when motion takes place within the zones. It saves the recording with 10 seconds of time prior to the motion starting. It must be constantly recording and buffering those 10 seconds.

        I still have to finish the wiring. Waiting on some color coordinated shrink tubing, and a Honeywell wireless doorbell chime setup.

        If this works out I will be installing at least one more doorbell, possibly two.

        Excuse the snow roof rake handles strewn about on the left. I need to put those away. We had what I think was a record amount of snow on our roof this past winter.

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          #14

          Mark, what sparked your desire to implement this?

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          • brendaB brenda

            Mark, what sparked your desire to implement this?

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            #15

            @brenda I'm a sucker for geeky tech.

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              #16

              I designed and printed these adapter plates. I tried a 4 degree wedge but I am still getting too much ceiling in the frame so I created an 8 degree version. Once I settle on the exact angle, I will marry the two into a single adapter plate.

              2021-03-30-16-17-56-3-D-design-Unifi-G4-Mounting-Plate-Tinkercad.png

              I ran a channel for each wire that meets at the bottom as a single opening.

              2021-03-30-16-22-02-3-D-design-Unifi-G4-Mounting-Plate-Bottom-Detail-Tinkercad.png

              2021-03-30-16-22-48-3-D-design-Unifi-G4-Mounting-Plate-Inside-Detail-Tinkercad.png

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              • markM mark

                I designed and printed these adapter plates. I tried a 4 degree wedge but I am still getting too much ceiling in the frame so I created an 8 degree version. Once I settle on the exact angle, I will marry the two into a single adapter plate.

                2021-03-30-16-17-56-3-D-design-Unifi-G4-Mounting-Plate-Tinkercad.png

                I ran a channel for each wire that meets at the bottom as a single opening.

                2021-03-30-16-22-02-3-D-design-Unifi-G4-Mounting-Plate-Bottom-Detail-Tinkercad.png

                2021-03-30-16-22-48-3-D-design-Unifi-G4-Mounting-Plate-Inside-Detail-Tinkercad.png

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                @mark said in New network in progress...:

                I will marry the two into a single adapter plate

                THat's ghey.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @mark said in New network in progress...:

                  Now I want to separate the ioT network from the business network and lock everything down.

                  Smart! 👍
                  Security for consumer grade IoT stuff generally leaves much to be desired, so isolating them away from the important stuff is smart.

                  I like the idea of a "mesh" network where the APs are integrated into one seamless WiFi network vs, the 5 that I have now.

                  For 99% of regular users, and for those who cannot or do not know how to drill holes and string Ethernet cables throughout the house, the wireless “mesh” stuff is great! Though for power users like yourself, I’d still say that Gigabit Ethernet wins just about every time. So if you can, string Cat6 cables and hook each AP up to a Cat6 cable, and rely on wireless “mesh” only at places where you cannot or don’t want to bother with a Cat6 cable. Just put all all the APs in the same subnet and configure each to use the same SSID/password (and make sure they are in “bridge” mode where DHCP/NAT/routing should only be done by only one router/gateway) and you will have a “seamless” network.

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                  @axtremus It seems the "Dream Machine" Pro has an issue with my Cable Modem. It appears to be a common problem with the "Dream Machine" Pro and a variety of broadband modems and routers.

                  It was quickly becoming known as the "Nightmare Machine" Pro here for a day or two until I tried a solution that seems to have helped many others solve the dropped packets and constant dropping of Remote Desktop sessions, Skype calls, Zoom, GotoMeeting, etc. Not good for business!

                  The solution is to place a gigabit switch between the "Nightmare Machine" Pro WAN port and the broadband modem/router. This makes it a "Dream Machine" Pro again.

                  Zero dropped packets. Zero disconnects.

                  Other than that it has been rock solid.

                  I have a bunch of new Cat6 patch cables ranging from 1/2 foot to 3 feet, and a 250 foot spool of bulk Cat6 being delivered tomorrow. It will be replacing 20+ year old CAT5 cable.

                  Installing a 2Gb HDD tomorrow into the DMP, so I can set the doorbell to record video.

                  I am seeing a pretty large 6+ second delay in the video and audio from the doorbell. I think it has something to do with the strength (or lack thereof) of the WiFi signal. The WiFi 6 APs are still on backorder so I have one wireless router running and it's in the basement. Lots of concrete to go through.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @mark said in New network in progress...:

                    I will marry the two into a single adapter plate

                    THat's ghey.

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                    wrote on last edited by mark
                    #19

                    @george-k said in New network in progress...:

                    @mark said in New network in progress...:

                    I will marry the two into a single adapter plate

                    THat's ghey.

                    lol

                    Here is their baby.

                    20210331-072451.jpg

                    The first layer is very smooth. I should really reverse this print so the textured side takes the adhesive.

                    20210331-072514.jpg

                    I can smooth or "iron" the top layer. It would probably add about an hour of print time. No need for that as it will be hidden behind the doorbell.

                    This will work just fine. I will rough up the smooth side for better adhesion.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      Two doorbells are operational.

                      My house is made with a very thick stone walls with plaster and metal lath walls that are at about 3/4" thick on each side of the true dimensional lumber studs.

                      It is extremely difficult to near impossible to get aWiFi signal to penetrate the walls.

                      Ubiquity to the rescue!

                      Ordered this Power Over Ethernet, Indoor/Outdoor Access Point on Monday. It arrived today.

                      https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-wireless/products/unifi-ac-mesh-ap

                      alt text

                      Until now, I was not getting reliable video feeds from either doorbell. I installed The AP on the side of the house so one antenna is visible to the front door, and the other is visible to the porch door.

                      Both cameras are now transmitting in real-time at 1600x1200.

                      The front door camera has already gone into Infra-Red mode here.

                      2021-04-15-19-51-57-Live-View-QEMS-DMP.png

                      Porch Pirates Beware! lol We have never had a problem with such things.

                      The two doorbells are using a Honeywell wireless adapter to activate a distinct chime sound for each. So, they actually function as a doorbell. lol. We haven't had a doorbell for almost 20 years. Now we have two with cameras, speakers, microphones, night vision, motion detection...

                      Big brother Mark is watching...

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