6.6 million jobless claims.
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wrote on 2 Apr 2020, 14:04 last edited by
Only 1 in 3?
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3.3 million was last week, and now it looks not too bad in light of today.
6.6 million.
10 million claims in the space of 8 days.
wrote on 2 Apr 2020, 15:33 last edited by@George-K This too shall pass.
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wrote on 2 Apr 2020, 16:20 last edited by
It's HUGE. The old new normal is about to be replaced by a new-new normal.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 14:44 last edited by
Employment statistics released 2020-04-09:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/weekly-jobless-claims-report.html- 6.6 million Americans filing first-time unemployment claims last week
- total claims over the past three weeks now exceed 16 million
It's probably still an undercount because many states' systems cannot take in new unemployment claims fast enough.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 14:52 last edited by
My old skills are back in demand apparently. Most of these systems are still running COBOL.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 15:47 last edited by
I wonder if there will be any fraud.
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My old skills are back in demand apparently. Most of these systems are still running COBOL.
wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 15:49 last edited by Copper 4 Sept 2020, 15:49@Mik said in 6.6 million jobless claims.:
My old skills are back in demand apparently. Most of these systems are still running COBOL.
How long would it take to train a C (or name several other languages) programmer in COBOL? Maybe a couple hours, a day or two for the second string.
Assuming you don't have to get too deeply in BL and BLL cells.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 15:52 last edited by
Python's better.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 15:52 last edited by
That depends.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 15:53 last edited by
Python does not run the world. COBOL does.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 16:04 last edited by
@Mik No, but it does run big data and machine learning.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 16:21 last edited by
What do you mean by big data?
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Read somewhere just yesterday that 1 in 3 households have someone who has lost his job or has his pay (or hours) cut.
wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 17:56 last edited by@Axtremus said in 6.6 million jobless claims.:
Read somewhere just yesterday that 1 in 3 households have someone who has lost his job or has his pay (or hours) cut.
Meanwhile, farmers are having food crops rot in the field.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 18:26 last edited by
Very long time ago, I wrote COBOL programs.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 18:51 last edited by mark 4 Sept 2020, 18:52
COBOL in school. Had a debugging contract job for a few months, but nothing since.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 19:13 last edited by Mik 4 Sept 2020, 19:15
I was the best COBOL programmer I ever knew. My code was clean, structured, efficient and stable. If it went down unexpectedly there were always sufficient breadcrumb trails consistently in the same places where one could find out the where the program was and what data it was looking at. If I detected something wrong and had to abend the program there was always an explicit report in the run logs that told you exactly what happened on what input record or DB call, why it was bad and if possible what to do to fix it and finish the run. Those things are pretty easy to do if you set up the structure right the first time. Everyone loved supporting my stuff because it was so easy.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 21:13 last edited by
@Mik said in 6.6 million jobless claims.:
My code was clean, structured, efficient and stable.
This might be a fun game:
Provide examples of COBOL code that is not “structured.”
It seems to me the COBOL language specification makes it virtually impossible for any compilable COBOL code to not be structured. From time to time I see C programmers deliberately write obfuscated free-flowing C one-liners that do brilliant things. That does not seem possible with COBOL.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 21:19 last edited by
That's really more of an assembly language thing, if you want to do really slick stuff, at least for older languages. But I would contend that if it's obfuscated it's not brilliant. Just obfuscated. I've seen a lot of that in C and other more recent languages.
The whole point of COBOL is an spoken-language-like readability, the ability of the poor sap who comes after you to understand what you did and why. And I saw a whole lot of poorly written unstructured code that compiled and ran just fine...until it didn't. You did not want to be the guy who got called at 3 am to figure it out. I always contended that programmers like that should be taken out back and shot so they didn't go to work somewhere else.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 21:33 last edited by Copper 4 Sept 2020, 21:34
I taught Basic COBOL, Advanced COBOL and Structured Techniques along with several other courses, in Kuwait, a long, long, long time ago.
Structured Techniques were a miracle of the early 70s endorsed by IBM. The best, all used Structured Techniques. It was certainly possible to not meet this standard.
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I taught Basic COBOL, Advanced COBOL and Structured Techniques along with several other courses, in Kuwait, a long, long, long time ago.
Structured Techniques were a miracle of the early 70s endorsed by IBM. The best, all used Structured Techniques. It was certainly possible to not meet this standard.
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