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    6.6 million jobless claims.

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    • George K
      George K last edited by George K

      3.3 million was last week, and now it looks not too bad in light of today.

      6.6 million.

      10 million claims in the space of 8 days.

      😧

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      I wish Sam Kinison was still alive so he could talk to some of your about your "hurt feelings."

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      • Axtremus
        Axtremus last edited by

        Read somewhere just yesterday that 1 in 3 households have someone who has lost his job or has his pay (or hours) cut.

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        • George K
          George K last edited by

          Using February statistics as a baseline, national unemployment has jumped from 3.5% to 9.6% in 2 weeks. That’s insane.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          I wish Sam Kinison was still alive so he could talk to some of your about your "hurt feelings."

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          • LuFins Dad
            LuFins Dad last edited by

            Only 1 in 3?

            Me/rry/Christmas

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            • LuFins Dad
              LuFins Dad @George K last edited by

              @George-K This too shall pass.

              Me/rry/Christmas

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              • kluurs
                kluurs last edited by

                It's HUGE. The old new normal is about to be replaced by a new-new normal.

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                • Axtremus
                  Axtremus last edited by

                  Employment statistics released 2020-04-09:
                  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/weekly-jobless-claims-report.html

                  • 6.6 million Americans filing first-time unemployment claims last week
                  • total claims over the past three weeks now exceed 16 million

                  It's probably still an undercount because many states' systems cannot take in new unemployment claims fast enough.

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                  • Mik
                    Mik last edited by

                    My old skills are back in demand apparently. Most of these systems are still running COBOL.

                    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/business/coronavirus-cobol-programmers-new-jersey-trnd/index.html?utm_source=fbCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2020-04-08T21%3A28%3A05&fbclid=IwAR2DiOQC1ZjaVcE4Zr1ljCNOvXHKhF2zZqIvAgSrZ__kHbZt4OQdLEHv26g

                    "Summon scorn until it radiates from your person like a baleful beacon of contempt."

                    "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

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                    • Copper
                      Copper last edited by

                      I wonder if there will be any fraud.

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                      • Copper
                        Copper @Mik last edited by Copper

                        @Mik said in 6.6 million jobless claims.:

                        My old skills are back in demand apparently. Most of these systems are still running COBOL.

                        https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/business/coronavirus-cobol-programmers-new-jersey-trnd/index.html?utm_source=fbCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2020-04-08T21%3A28%3A05&fbclid=IwAR2DiOQC1ZjaVcE4Zr1ljCNOvXHKhF2zZqIvAgSrZ__kHbZt4OQdLEHv26g

                        How long would it take to train a C (or name several other languages) programmer in COBOL? Maybe a couple hours, a day or two for the second string.

                        Assuming you don't have to get too deeply in BL and BLL cells.

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                        • Aqua Letifer
                          Aqua Letifer last edited by

                          Python's better.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Copper
                            Copper last edited by

                            That depends.

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                            • Mik
                              Mik last edited by

                              Python does not run the world. COBOL does.

                              "Summon scorn until it radiates from your person like a baleful beacon of contempt."

                              "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

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                              • Aqua Letifer
                                Aqua Letifer @Mik last edited by

                                @Mik No, but it does run big data and machine learning.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • Mik
                                  Mik last edited by

                                  What do you mean by big data?

                                  "Summon scorn until it radiates from your person like a baleful beacon of contempt."

                                  "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

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                                  • Jolly
                                    Jolly @Axtremus last edited by

                                    @Axtremus said in 6.6 million jobless claims.:

                                    Read somewhere just yesterday that 1 in 3 households have someone who has lost his job or has his pay (or hours) cut.

                                    Meanwhile, farmers are having food crops rot in the field.

                                    That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. - Samuel Clemons

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                                    • Axtremus
                                      Axtremus last edited by

                                      Very long time ago, I wrote COBOL programs.

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                                      • mark
                                        mark last edited by mark

                                        COBOL in school. Had a debugging contract job for a few months, but nothing since.

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                                        • Mik
                                          Mik last edited by Mik

                                          I was the best COBOL programmer I ever knew. My code was clean, structured, efficient and stable. If it went down unexpectedly there were always sufficient breadcrumb trails consistently in the same places where one could find out the where the program was and what data it was looking at. If I detected something wrong and had to abend the program there was always an explicit report in the run logs that told you exactly what happened on what input record or DB call, why it was bad and if possible what to do to fix it and finish the run. Those things are pretty easy to do if you set up the structure right the first time. Everyone loved supporting my stuff because it was so easy.

                                          "Summon scorn until it radiates from your person like a baleful beacon of contempt."

                                          "I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?" Dave Chappelle

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                                          • Axtremus
                                            Axtremus last edited by

                                            @Mik said in 6.6 million jobless claims.:

                                            My code was clean, structured, efficient and stable.

                                            This might be a fun game:

                                            Provide examples of COBOL code that is not “structured.”

                                            It seems to me the COBOL language specification makes it virtually impossible for any compilable COBOL code to not be structured. From time to time I see C programmers deliberately write obfuscated free-flowing C one-liners that do brilliant things. That does not seem possible with COBOL.

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