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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #36

    Apparently there are folks working on LED UV lights that can go down the vent tube and attack the virus in the trachea.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      You guys do know that Hydrogen Peroxide (a popular disinfectant) was administered intravenously during the Spanish Flu to great effect?

      jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #37

      @LuFins-Dad said in “On line three, we have Donny from Queens...”:

      You guys do know that Hydrogen Peroxide (a popular disinfectant) was administered intravenously during the Spanish Flu to great effect?

      Cool! Why did they stop it? You don’t hear much about that for viral treatment today. Did they do it in the 57 or 68 outbreaks? Was it attempted for SARS, MERS, or Ebola?

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        You guys do know that Hydrogen Peroxide (a popular disinfectant) was administered intravenously during the Spanish Flu to great effect?

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        mark
        wrote on last edited by mark
        #38

        @LuFins-Dad said in “On line three, we have Donny from Queens...”:

        You guys do know that Hydrogen Peroxide (a popular disinfectant) was administered intravenously during the Spanish Flu to great effect?

        Unproven quackery! Why would you suggest a treatment from over 100 years ago. Next up, a good blood letting!

        The only places I can find are wackadoodle sites and youtube that are pushing this as a treatment for everything and anything.

        The only real news sources I found were not favorable.

        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-prescription-for-death/

        https://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/natural-medicine/alternative/hydrogen-peroxide-therapy3.htm

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          There's probably already a shortage.

          Copper, you might want to get yours while you can.

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          Copper
          wrote on last edited by
          #39

          @Aqua-Letifer said in “On line three, we have Donny from Queens...”:

          There's probably already a shortage.

          Copper, you might want to get yours while you can.

          We hoarded, we're fine

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          • L Offline
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            Loki
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            #40

            Better approach to satirize the President than hair on fire everyone is gonna die from injecting themselves with Lysol. Nice recovery.

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            • L Offline
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              Loki
              wrote on last edited by
              #41

              Yet there really are Darwin Award contestants out there...

              https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-new-yorkers-household-cleaners-trump-20200425-rnaqio5dyfeaxmthxx2vktqa5m-story.html

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              • HoraceH Online
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                Horace
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                #42

                I respect their willingness to put themselves at risk, for science. Progress requires sacrifice.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • markM mark

                  @LuFins-Dad said in “On line three, we have Donny from Queens...”:

                  You guys do know that Hydrogen Peroxide (a popular disinfectant) was administered intravenously during the Spanish Flu to great effect?

                  Unproven quackery! Why would you suggest a treatment from over 100 years ago. Next up, a good blood letting!

                  The only places I can find are wackadoodle sites and youtube that are pushing this as a treatment for everything and anything.

                  The only real news sources I found were not favorable.

                  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-prescription-for-death/

                  https://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/natural-medicine/alternative/hydrogen-peroxide-therapy3.htm

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #43

                  @mark I didn’t fucking recommend it. I mentioned that it’s been used in the past. I am getting really sick of your panicked and overbearing attitude.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @mark I didn’t fucking recommend it. I mentioned that it’s been used in the past. I am getting really sick of your panicked and overbearing attitude.

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                    mark
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                    #44

                    @LuFins-Dad WTF are you talking about? I am not panicked nor overbearing. You are touting unproven bullshit treatments and you are calling me out for calling you out?

                    Yeah, OK then.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #45

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                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
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                        #46

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                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • IvorythumperI Offline
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                          Ivorythumper
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                          #47

                          Anyone who thinks Trump advocated anything like household disinfectants needs to try researching the context of the statement.

                          Immediately preceding the president's remarks, the Acting Secretary who leads the Science and Technology Directorate at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security said this:

                          "We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing — just spraying it on and letting it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.

                          This is not the end of our work as we continue to characterize this virus and integrate our findings into practical applications to mitigate exposure and transmission. I would like to thank the President and thank the Vice President for their ongoing support and leadership to the department and for their work in addressing this pandemic. I would also like to thank the scientists, not only in S&T and the NBACC, but to the larger scientific and R&D community."

                          The discussion then continued:

                          [TRUMP:]

                          "So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.

                          ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.

                          THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.

                          So we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s — that’s pretty powerful."

                          https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-31/

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #48

                            So why did he say he was being sarcastic?

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              So why did he say he was being sarcastic?

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                              Ivorythumper
                              wrote on last edited by Ivorythumper
                              #49

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in “On line three, we have Donny from Queens...”:

                              So why did he say he was being sarcastic?

                              He obviously wasn't being sarcastic at the presser -- I assume he was just pissed off at the trolling reporter and lashed out intemperately.

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                              • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in “On line three, we have Donny from Queens...”:

                                So why did he say he was being sarcastic?

                                He obviously wasn't being sarcastic at the presser -- I assume he was just pissed off at the trolling reporter and lashed out intemperately.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #50

                                His real problem is that he's not a good off-script communicator, but he thinks he's a great off-script communicator.

                                I was only joking

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #51

                                  He can be, but just as often misses the mark widely.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #52

                                    He's particularly bad at this type of communication, where you need to stick to facts, and be both concise and accurate. He's good at rallies and stuff, but that's not we need.

                                    Sadly, he just has no conception of when to STFU.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      He's particularly bad at this type of communication, where you need to stick to facts, and be both concise and accurate. He's good at rallies and stuff, but that's not we need.

                                      Sadly, he just has no conception of when to STFU.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #53

                                      @Doctor-Phibes Yes

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
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                                        38% rise in bleach poisoning predates Trump’s suggestion

                                        in January and February of this year, the number of cases of bleach exposure were roughly similar to the same months in 2019—about 3,000 per month. However, in March, this spiked to 5,068 cases, with the graph showing the numbers grew steadily during the middle of that month, several weeks before Trump's press conference. Although April saw an even higher total number—5,739 cases, compared to 3,242 in April 2019—the graph shows the peak in bleach exposure actually occurred at the beginning of that month. Comparing the same date range (January 1 to May 10) for both years, the NPDS found a 38-percent increase in bleach exposure in 2020.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
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                                          #55

                                          Thus proving my contention that no matter how stupid something is, there's someone, somewhere, who will do it.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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