SD Cards
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The general direction is to push the typical consumers to use cloud storage. Once you are on cloud storage, you stop worrying about changing or keeping up with physical storage media standards. For example, for people who take home videos:
Betamax/VHS, Hi-8/8mm, miniDV, flash/SD card, “cloud”
Ahd then you no longer own your own stuff.
wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 17:37 last edited byThe general direction is to push the typical consumers to use cloud storage. Once you are on cloud storage, you stop worrying about changing or keeping up with physical storage media standards. For example, for people who take home videos:
Betamax/VHS, Hi-8/8mm, miniDV, flash/SD card, “cloud”
Ahd then you no longer own your own stuff.
You never really owned that content when you realized you had to continue to re buy it in a useable format. Record, reel to real, 8 track, cassette, CD... now I can access all of it and more much cheaper on Spotify.
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@Jolly Yes, the definition of ownership becomes murkier once you are detached from physical possession. Same problem with the money you put in the bank. It comes down to faith in the system, that the cloud companies will keep honoring your “ownership” of “your” data, that the banks will keep honoring your “ownership” of “your” money.
Legislatively the states have many good laws to keep the bank honoring your ownership of your money. The legal framework for data ownership still need a lot of work.
In the meantime, the mantra for folks who have the technical proficiency to understand the issue is to keep local copies and backup, backup, backup.
I have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 18:47 last edited byI have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
No problem, man, you do you. There are still folks who keep their money in cookie jars and under their mattresses rather than put it in the bank. These acts ain’t hurting nobody else.
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wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 19:11 last edited by
I heard that when Microsoft introduced a Chinese version of Windows, within a very short time it had been hacked and was then available for "free" in China.
Once everything is in the cloud, the Chinese and others will not be able to get stuff for "free" by hacking, and millions will be forced to pay for software located only in the cloud.I think that the above is true, but not totally sure. Makes some sense, though.
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I have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
No problem, man, you do you. There are still folks who keep their money in cookie jars and under their mattresses rather than put it in the bank. These acts ain’t hurting nobody else.
wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 19:12 last edited byI have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
No problem, man, you do you. There are still folks who keep their money in cookie jars and under their mattresses rather than put it in the bank. These acts ain’t hurting nobody else.
Ax, old buddy. You put your money in a. . . bank??
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I heard that when Microsoft introduced a Chinese version of Windows, within a very short time it had been hacked and was then available for "free" in China.
Once everything is in the cloud, the Chinese and others will not be able to get stuff for "free" by hacking, and millions will be forced to pay for software located only in the cloud.I think that the above is true, but not totally sure. Makes some sense, though.
wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 19:17 last edited byI heard that when Microsoft introduced a Chinese version of Windows, within a very short time it had been hacked and was then available for "free" in China.
Once everything is in the cloud, the Chinese and others will not be able to get stuff for "free" by hacking, and millions will be forced to pay for software located only in the cloud.I think that the above is true, but not totally sure. Makes some sense, though.
And just this week, didn't the Chines gack the sugar out of a Microsoft product?
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I have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
No problem, man, you do you. There are still folks who keep their money in cookie jars and under their mattresses rather than put it in the bank. These acts ain’t hurting nobody else.
wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 19:19 last edited byI have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
No problem, man, you do you. There are still folks who keep their money in cookie jars and under their mattresses rather than put it in the bank. These acts ain’t hurting nobody else.
Telk you what I can do...If the cloud goes away tomorrow and takes the banks with it, I can still keep my family warm, safe and fed.
Can you do the same?
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wrote on 7 Mar 2021, 19:35 last edited by Rainman 3 Jul 2021, 19:36
My first experience with SD cards is using them in my drones.
For me, it's just baffling how so much video can be stored on such a tiny thing. An amazing step in technology, before everything goes into the cloud (or "in" the cloud).I'm appropriately paranoid of dropping the card on a windy day, and seeing it scurry away bouncing across the parking lot in the breeze while I try to trap it with my cane while screaming for help while stumbling half bent-over and maintaining my chase for 20 yards or more while little kids point and laugh and then entire families are pointing and laughing and I finally fall over completely exhausted and throw my cane the last few yards in a feeble attempt to get lucky, little bastards still laughing along with their asshole parents.
Guess how I know this stuff. (No, Ax, I don't really mean you should take the time to take your best guess, but I guess you can if you want, free speech and all that nonsense)
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I have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
No problem, man, you do you. There are still folks who keep their money in cookie jars and under their mattresses rather than put it in the bank. These acts ain’t hurting nobody else.
Telk you what I can do...If the cloud goes away tomorrow and takes the banks with it, I can still keep my family warm, safe and fed.
Can you do the same?
wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 03:33 last edited byTelk you what I can do...If the cloud goes away tomorrow and takes the banks with it, I can still keep my family warm, safe and fed.
Can you do the same?
Sure. It reads like you also put your money in the banks, which is fine.
Notice we haven't even get into what it means to "own" stocks and bonds yet. Let me know when you discuss the meaning of "ownership" when it comes to stocks and bonds.
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wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 04:04 last edited by
I have used SD cards for years. In cameras, audio recording devices like the Zoom H6.
Don't use them too much outside of said devices.
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Telk you what I can do...If the cloud goes away tomorrow and takes the banks with it, I can still keep my family warm, safe and fed.
Can you do the same?
Sure. It reads like you also put your money in the banks, which is fine.
Notice we haven't even get into what it means to "own" stocks and bonds yet. Let me know when you discuss the meaning of "ownership" when it comes to stocks and bonds.
wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 04:10 last edited byTelk you what I can do...If the cloud goes away tomorrow and takes the banks with it, I can still keep my family warm, safe and fed.
Can you do the same?
Sure. It reads like you also put your money in the banks, which is fine.
Notice we haven't even get into what it means to "own" stocks and bonds yet. Let me know when you discuss the meaning of "ownership" when it comes to stocks and bonds.
Yeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.
Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
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Telk you what I can do...If the cloud goes away tomorrow and takes the banks with it, I can still keep my family warm, safe and fed.
Can you do the same?
Sure. It reads like you also put your money in the banks, which is fine.
Notice we haven't even get into what it means to "own" stocks and bonds yet. Let me know when you discuss the meaning of "ownership" when it comes to stocks and bonds.
Yeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.
Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 05:09 last edited byYeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.
OK, from that statement I take it you do not take physical possession of stock and bond certificates. And, news flash, no one has all their money in the bank anyway. Even the most ardent advocates for “cashless society” keep a few bucks at home to tip the delivery guy and for emergencies. So your statement about not putting all your money in the bank is rather vacuous.
Back to the stock ownership question. You gotta think deeper than “paper shares”. Even if you physically own the stock and bond certificates, what does “ownership” mean when the “stock” merely represents fractions of some collections of assets none of which you possess physically, what does “ownership” mean when the “bond” merely represent I.O.U.s?
Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
Sure.
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wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 09:18 last edited by
How did we get from "What are the advantages of SD cards"? to "Can you still feed your family if the shit hits the fan"?
The miracle of TNCR.
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Yeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.
OK, from that statement I take it you do not take physical possession of stock and bond certificates. And, news flash, no one has all their money in the bank anyway. Even the most ardent advocates for “cashless society” keep a few bucks at home to tip the delivery guy and for emergencies. So your statement about not putting all your money in the bank is rather vacuous.
Back to the stock ownership question. You gotta think deeper than “paper shares”. Even if you physically own the stock and bond certificates, what does “ownership” mean when the “stock” merely represents fractions of some collections of assets none of which you possess physically, what does “ownership” mean when the “bond” merely represent I.O.U.s?
Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
Sure.
wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 12:32 last edited byYeah, yeah...You want to go into the nobody owns actual paper shares argument. The stocks can go away, I can still feed my family. And no, all my money is not in the bank.
OK, from that statement I take it you do not take physical possession of stock and bond certificates. And, news flash, no one has all their money in the bank anyway. Even the most ardent advocates for “cashless society” keep a few bucks at home to tip the delivery guy and for emergencies. So your statement about not putting all your money in the bank is rather vacuous.
Back to the stock ownership question. You gotta think deeper than “paper shares”. Even if you physically own the stock and bond certificates, what does “ownership” mean when the “stock” merely represents fractions of some collections of assets none of which you possess physically, what does “ownership” mean when the “bond” merely represent I.O.U.s?
Again, if the cloud goes away tomorrow, can you keep your family warm, fed and safe?
Sure.
How?
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How did we get from "What are the advantages of SD cards"? to "Can you still feed your family if the shit hits the fan"?
The miracle of TNCR.
wrote on 8 Mar 2021, 17:24 last edited byHow did we get from "What are the advantages of SD cards"? to "Can you still feed your family if the shit hits the fan"?
The miracle of TNCR.
One of the things I really like about this forum.
Opening a thread is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to read!! 555
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 00:34 last edited by
Another thing that challenges the traditional notion of “ownership”:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/arts/design/nft-auction-christies-beeple.html
Digital items digitally, cryptographically signed as having been sold and “belonging” to someone.
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@Jolly Yes, the definition of ownership becomes murkier once you are detached from physical possession. Same problem with the money you put in the bank. It comes down to faith in the system, that the cloud companies will keep honoring your “ownership” of “your” data, that the banks will keep honoring your “ownership” of “your” money.
Legislatively the states have many good laws to keep the bank honoring your ownership of your money. The legal framework for data ownership still need a lot of work.
In the meantime, the mantra for folks who have the technical proficiency to understand the issue is to keep local copies and backup, backup, backup.
I have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:23 last edited byI have no faith in much of the cloud. The cloud has already proven itself to be a malevolent host and no respecter of ownership.
It's the best backup system available today. Just keep your stuff copied locally and there's no ownership problem.
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:30 last edited by
@aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:
Just keep your stuff copied locally
I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.
Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.
No, wait...two external hard drive.
Not that I'm paranoid.
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@aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:
Just keep your stuff copied locally
I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.
Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.
No, wait...two external hard drive.
Not that I'm paranoid.
wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:31 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in SD Cards:
Just keep your stuff copied locally
I have my stuff "in the cloud" via Apple's iCloud service. My home folder, documents, photos, etc.
Oh...all that shit is also backed up to an external hard drive too, just in case.
No, wait...two external hard drive.
Not that I'm paranoid.
My work crap is on Adobe cloud + an external.
Personal stuff is on iCloud + external.
Photos are Adobe + external. -
wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:34 last edited by George K 3 Dec 2021, 01:39
The "cloud" is certainly convenient. You can access whatever you want, as long as 1) the cloud is "up" and 2) you have (fast) internet access.
If the cloud went down tomorrow, I'd lose nothing other than an alternative backup scheme.
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wrote on 12 Mar 2021, 01:36 last edited by
Me too.
