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Gorbachev turns 90

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 2 Mar 2021, 10:42 last edited by
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    You were warned.

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      George K
      wrote on 2 Mar 2021, 12:45 last edited by
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      That's just great.

      He looks pretty good!

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        2 Mar 2021, 12:45

        That's just great.

        He looks pretty good!

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        Renauda
        wrote on 2 Mar 2021, 15:34 last edited by
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        @george-k

        That was taken some time ago. Mikhail Sergeevich is looking his years now.

        He is probably the most reviled person in Russia.

        Elbows up!

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 2 Mar 2021, 15:37 last edited by
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          A buddy of mine mic'd him for some thing downtown back in the day. He was an A/V intern and it was his first day. Gorbachev had to teach him how a lapel mic attaches.

          Please love yourself.

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            Loki
            wrote on 2 Mar 2021, 16:53 last edited by
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            It’s amazing the gap between what was imagined and where we are now.

            How did we reward Russia over the decades for the risks they took?

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              2 Mar 2021, 15:34

              @george-k

              That was taken some time ago. Mikhail Sergeevich is looking his years now.

              He is probably the most reviled person in Russia.

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              xenon
              wrote on 2 Mar 2021, 17:23 last edited by
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              @renauda said in Gorbachev turns 90:

              He is probably the most reviled person in Russia.

              Why? And is it warranted?

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                2 Mar 2021, 17:23

                @renauda said in Gorbachev turns 90:

                He is probably the most reviled person in Russia.

                Why? And is it warranted?

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                Renauda
                wrote on 2 Mar 2021, 21:35 last edited by Renauda 3 Mar 2021, 16:23
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                @xenon

                why? This article sums it up fairly well:

                https://www.irishtimes.com/news/gorbachev-hero-or-holy-fool-1.1046467

                Is it warranted? If you are a Russian, yes. If you are a Ukrainian or citizen of any former Soviet Republic, probably. If you are from any of the former communist states in east Europe, no. If you are from the West, it doesn't matter, since no one, including Gorbachev himself and Russians themselves, could figure out what he was on about.

                As one Russian told me back in the '90's, Gorbachev had one answer for every question, "Процес пошел" - Protseis poshyol - The process has begun". The problem was is that he had no idea what the process was that had started or where it might lead.

                I actually met him once. In Calgary shortly after his Nobel prize. The University of Calgary and the Gorbachev Foundation had set up a joint governance project under a Foreign Affairs Canada programme. He was in Calgary for the big announcement and accompanying fanfare and schmooze fests.

                Elbows up!

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 3 Mar 2021, 16:27 last edited by
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                  From yesterday's Moscow Times:

                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/03/02/on-this-day-in-1931-mikhail-gorbachev-was-born-a69483

                  Elbows up!

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