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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

    @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

    @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

    said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

    In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

    Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

    He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

    True. I am corrected.

    But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

    He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

    Doesn't matter what they say. He wasn't convicted. Period.

    Anything else is just political fodder.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

      @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

      @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

      said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

      In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

      Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

      He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

      True. I am corrected.

      But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

      He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

      Doesn't matter what they say. He wasn't convicted. Period.

      Anything else is just political fodder.

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      A Former User
      wrote on last edited by
      #22

      @jolly said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

      @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

      @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

      @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

      said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

      In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

      Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

      He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

      True. I am corrected.

      But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

      He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

      Doesn't matter what they say. He wasn't convicted. Period.

      Anything else is just political fodder.

      Impeachment trials are political fodder. The rule of law does not apply. Facts do not apply. Partisanship is all that applies. Similar to Jolly’s thread about the son who turned his dad in recently. You dont betray your own. Its ok, The footsteps of legal doom are approaching. This impeachment was the least of his worries

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

        @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

        said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

        In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

        Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

        He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

        True. I am corrected.

        But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

        He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

        MikM Offline
        MikM Offline
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #23

        @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

        @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

        @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

        said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

        In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

        Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

        He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

        True. I am corrected.

        But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

        He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

        Yes, it does mean exactly that. To be found not guilty is the same thing. If you wish to believe he is guilty you have every right to do so. But neither your opinion nor anyone else's has any bearing on his legal status.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #24

          We don't trust the courts to provide justice, but the Senate is another matter entirely.

          I was only joking

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          • MikM Mik

            @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

            @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

            @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

            said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

            In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

            Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

            He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

            True. I am corrected.

            But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

            He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

            Yes, it does mean exactly that. To be found not guilty is the same thing. If you wish to believe he is guilty you have every right to do so. But neither your opinion nor anyone else's has any bearing on his legal status.

            taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #25

            @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

            @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

            @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

            @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

            said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

            In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

            Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

            He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

            True. I am corrected.

            But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

            He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

            Yes, it does mean exactly that. To be found not guilty is the same thing. If you wish to believe he is guilty you have every right to do so. But neither your opinion nor anyone else's has any bearing on his legal status.

            I dont believe that "not guilty" and "innocent" are the same thing, from my understanding of the words.

            For example, a store is robbed. For no reason, police stop a car near the store and without asking, open the trunk and find the stole goods.

            The judge does not allow that. Says it was illegal search and anything they found during the search cannot be used during trial. They have no other evidence. So, he is found "not guilty". But is he "innocent"? I dont think so.

            I certainly agree that President Trump was not guilty. But it apprears that Senator McConnell (and some others) do not think he was innocent.

            JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

              Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

              He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

              True. I am corrected.

              But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

              He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

              Yes, it does mean exactly that. To be found not guilty is the same thing. If you wish to believe he is guilty you have every right to do so. But neither your opinion nor anyone else's has any bearing on his legal status.

              I dont believe that "not guilty" and "innocent" are the same thing, from my understanding of the words.

              For example, a store is robbed. For no reason, police stop a car near the store and without asking, open the trunk and find the stole goods.

              The judge does not allow that. Says it was illegal search and anything they found during the search cannot be used during trial. They have no other evidence. So, he is found "not guilty". But is he "innocent"? I dont think so.

              I certainly agree that President Trump was not guilty. But it apprears that Senator McConnell (and some others) do not think he was innocent.

              JollyJ Offline
              JollyJ Offline
              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #26

              @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

              In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

              Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

              He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

              True. I am corrected.

              But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

              He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

              Yes, it does mean exactly that. To be found not guilty is the same thing. If you wish to believe he is guilty you have every right to do so. But neither your opinion nor anyone else's has any bearing on his legal status.

              I dont believe that "not guilty" and "innocent" are the same thing, from my understanding of the words.

              For example, a store is robbed. For no reason, police stop a car near the store and without asking, open the trunk and find the stole goods.

              The judge does not allow that. Says it was illegal search and anything they found during the search cannot be used during trial. They have no other evidence. So, he is found "not guilty". But is he "innocent"? I dont think so.

              I certainly agree that President Trump was not guilty. But it apprears that Senator McConnell (and some others) do not think he was innocent.

              You are never proven innocent in a court of law.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

              taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
              • JollyJ Jolly

                @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

                Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

                He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

                True. I am corrected.

                But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

                He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

                Yes, it does mean exactly that. To be found not guilty is the same thing. If you wish to believe he is guilty you have every right to do so. But neither your opinion nor anyone else's has any bearing on his legal status.

                I dont believe that "not guilty" and "innocent" are the same thing, from my understanding of the words.

                For example, a store is robbed. For no reason, police stop a car near the store and without asking, open the trunk and find the stole goods.

                The judge does not allow that. Says it was illegal search and anything they found during the search cannot be used during trial. They have no other evidence. So, he is found "not guilty". But is he "innocent"? I dont think so.

                I certainly agree that President Trump was not guilty. But it apprears that Senator McConnell (and some others) do not think he was innocent.

                You are never proven innocent in a court of law.

                taiwan_girlT Offline
                taiwan_girlT Offline
                taiwan_girl
                wrote on last edited by
                #27

                @jolly said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                @mik said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                @taiwan_girl said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                said in Lies SCOTUS told me.:

                In other words, a stolen presidential election—if it happens, we don’t really know in this case—has an almost immediate statute of limitations,

                Just like the last President Trump impeachment has a statute of limitations. Wasn't that one of the main arguments on why he was not impeached? LOL

                He was impeached. He was not convicted. These are two separate things.

                True. I am corrected.

                But one of the things said by some (alot?) of the senators is that it is not that President Trump was not "guilty" of the crime, but rather that he could not be convicted of it anymore. The time had run out.

                He was found to be "not guilty", but that does not mean he was "innocent".

                Yes, it does mean exactly that. To be found not guilty is the same thing. If you wish to believe he is guilty you have every right to do so. But neither your opinion nor anyone else's has any bearing on his legal status.

                I dont believe that "not guilty" and "innocent" are the same thing, from my understanding of the words.

                For example, a store is robbed. For no reason, police stop a car near the store and without asking, open the trunk and find the stole goods.

                The judge does not allow that. Says it was illegal search and anything they found during the search cannot be used during trial. They have no other evidence. So, he is found "not guilty". But is he "innocent"? I dont think so.

                I certainly agree that President Trump was not guilty. But it apprears that Senator McConnell (and some others) do not think he was innocent.

                You are never proven innocent in a court of law.

                Maybe we are saying the same thing with different words.

                But I think that there is a difference between "not guilty" and "innocent".

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