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    Renauda
    wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 23:55 last edited by
    #44

    Yes of course, a thoughtless argument.

    Obviously, this open democracy concept is just another tool of the bourgeoisie to oppress the masses.

    Elbows up!

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    • R Renauda
      23 Feb 2021, 18:20

      @horace I agree one is a bigger problem than the other. But that is where we are surely bound to disagree.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 23:57 last edited by
      #45

      @renauda said in The Big Lie:

      @horace I agree one is a bigger problem than the other. But that is where we are surely bound to disagree.

      Tell ya what. Let's go mano e mano. We'll start at the effective range of the best weapon in an open field...About 500 meters.

      Your weapon:

      alt text

      My weapon:

      alt text

      No difference, am I right?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • R Renauda
        23 Feb 2021, 23:55

        Yes of course, a thoughtless argument.

        Obviously, this open democracy concept is just another tool of the bourgeoisie to oppress the masses.

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        Horace
        wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:00 last edited by
        #46

        @renauda said in The Big Lie:

        Yes of course, a thoughtless argument.

        Obviously, this open democracy concept is just another tool of the bourgeoisie to oppress the masses.

        Yes, "if you don't vote, you don't get to have an opinion" is absolutely thoughtless. Not least because it's so easy to just say you vote. Now your foot is in the door, and you get to have an opinion. The only reason you know I don't vote is because I'm trying to present the idea, directly opposed to your rube logic, of which I have been well aware for decades, that the rube logic is nonsense. Voting, when it's meaningless, is actually meaningless. And it makes sense to not go get in line to do it, just because some intellectual posers out there tell you it's super important.

        You would have a point if American elections were decided by popular vote. They aren't.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • J Jolly
          23 Feb 2021, 23:57

          @renauda said in The Big Lie:

          @horace I agree one is a bigger problem than the other. But that is where we are surely bound to disagree.

          Tell ya what. Let's go mano e mano. We'll start at the effective range of the best weapon in an open field...About 500 meters.

          Your weapon:

          alt text

          My weapon:

          alt text

          No difference, am I right?

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          Renauda
          wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:00 last edited by
          #47

          @jolly

          You need a trebuchet for that brick.

          Elbows up!

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          • H Horace
            24 Feb 2021, 00:00

            @renauda said in The Big Lie:

            Yes of course, a thoughtless argument.

            Obviously, this open democracy concept is just another tool of the bourgeoisie to oppress the masses.

            Yes, "if you don't vote, you don't get to have an opinion" is absolutely thoughtless. Not least because it's so easy to just say you vote. Now your foot is in the door, and you get to have an opinion. The only reason you know I don't vote is because I'm trying to present the idea, directly opposed to your rube logic, of which I have been well aware for decades, that the rube logic is nonsense. Voting, when it's meaningless, is actually meaningless. And it makes sense to not go get in line to do it, just because some intellectual posers out there tell you it's super important.

            You would have a point if American elections were decided by popular vote. They aren't.

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            Renauda
            wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:02 last edited by
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            @horace said in The Big Lie:

            The only reason you know I don't vote is because I'm trying to present the idea, directly opposed to your rube logic, of which I have been well aware for decades, that the rube logic is nonsense. Voting, when it's meaningless, is actually meaningless. And it makes sense to not go get in line to do it, just because some intellectual posers out there tell you it's super important.

            For a moment there I thought you were quoting Lenin.

            Elbows up!

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            • R Renauda
              24 Feb 2021, 00:02

              @horace said in The Big Lie:

              The only reason you know I don't vote is because I'm trying to present the idea, directly opposed to your rube logic, of which I have been well aware for decades, that the rube logic is nonsense. Voting, when it's meaningless, is actually meaningless. And it makes sense to not go get in line to do it, just because some intellectual posers out there tell you it's super important.

              For a moment there I thought you were quoting Lenin.

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              Horace
              wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:04 last edited by
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              @renauda said in The Big Lie:

              @horace said in The Big Lie:

              The only reason you know I don't vote is because I'm trying to present the idea, directly opposed to your rube logic, of which I have been well aware for decades, that the rube logic is nonsense. Voting, when it's meaningless, is actually meaningless. And it makes sense to not go get in line to do it, just because some intellectual posers out there tell you it's super important.

              For a moment there I thought you were quoting Lenin.

              Your stupefying historical knowledge has won the day yet again.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:14 last edited by
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                No, I just enjoy the Beatles.

                Elbows up!

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                • H Horace
                  23 Feb 2021, 18:22

                  @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                  @horace I agree one is a bigger problem than the other. But that is where we are surely bound to disagree.

                  What did conservatives ever do to you?

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                  A Former User
                  wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:23 last edited by
                  #51

                  @horace said in The Big Lie:

                  @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                  @horace I agree one is a bigger problem than the other. But that is where we are surely bound to disagree.

                  What did conservatives ever do to you?

                  Spew their hypocrisy with every other sentence out of their mouths

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                  • H Horace
                    23 Feb 2021, 18:34

                    @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                    @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                    Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                    A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                    The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                    To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                    Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                    As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

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                    A Former User
                    wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:28 last edited by
                    #52

                    @horace said in The Big Lie:

                    @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                    @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                    Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                    A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                    The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                    To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                    Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                    As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                    Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

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                    • ? A Former User
                      24 Feb 2021, 00:28

                      @horace said in The Big Lie:

                      @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                      @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                      Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                      A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                      The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                      To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                      Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                      As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                      Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:30 last edited by
                      #53

                      @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                      @horace said in The Big Lie:

                      @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                      @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                      Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                      A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                      The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                      To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                      Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                      As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                      Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                      Ok. Apparently you know more about the facts than I do. Trump was enjoying watching people getting stampeded. Where is the evidence for this, again?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • H Horace
                        24 Feb 2021, 00:30

                        @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                        @horace said in The Big Lie:

                        @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                        @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                        Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                        A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                        The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                        To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                        Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                        As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                        Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                        Ok. Apparently you know more about the facts than I do. Trump was enjoying watching people getting stampeded. Where is the evidence for this, again?

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                        A Former User
                        wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:40 last edited by
                        #54

                        @horace said in The Big Lie:

                        @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                        @horace said in The Big Lie:

                        @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                        @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                        Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                        A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                        The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                        To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                        Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                        As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                        Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                        Ok. Apparently you know more about the facts than I do. Trump was enjoying watching people getting stampeded. Where is the evidence for this, again?

                        You must really live in a bubble of conservative news sources only. Of course Fox and Newsmax wouldnt dare broadcast it. Tell ya what, go to Google or your favorite search engine and simply type “accounts of trump enjoying the riot”. Really man, you cant see him for the despicuble excuse of a human that he is? It is totally in line with his desire of how the day should play out.

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                        • ? A Former User
                          24 Feb 2021, 00:40

                          @horace said in The Big Lie:

                          @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                          @horace said in The Big Lie:

                          @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                          @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                          Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                          A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                          The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                          To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                          Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                          As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                          Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                          Ok. Apparently you know more about the facts than I do. Trump was enjoying watching people getting stampeded. Where is the evidence for this, again?

                          You must really live in a bubble of conservative news sources only. Of course Fox and Newsmax wouldnt dare broadcast it. Tell ya what, go to Google or your favorite search engine and simply type “accounts of trump enjoying the riot”. Really man, you cant see him for the despicuble excuse of a human that he is? It is totally in line with his desire of how the day should play out.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:44 last edited by
                          #55

                          @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                          accounts of trump enjoying the riot

                          Googled it. Here's a clip from the first hit:

                          The evidence indicates that Trump Jr.'s video was recorded before the president's speech to the "Save America" rally on Wednesday and thus well before the riot at the Capitol.

                          I'm really shocked and saddened to see that you're wrong again, NS. I'm sorry.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • ? A Former User
                            24 Feb 2021, 00:40

                            @horace said in The Big Lie:

                            @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                            @horace said in The Big Lie:

                            @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                            @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                            Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                            A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                            The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                            To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                            Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                            As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                            Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                            Ok. Apparently you know more about the facts than I do. Trump was enjoying watching people getting stampeded. Where is the evidence for this, again?

                            You must really live in a bubble of conservative news sources only. Of course Fox and Newsmax wouldnt dare broadcast it. Tell ya what, go to Google or your favorite search engine and simply type “accounts of trump enjoying the riot”. Really man, you cant see him for the despicuble excuse of a human that he is? It is totally in line with his desire of how the day should play out.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:49 last edited by
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                            @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                            Apparently you know more about the facts than I do.

                            In all fairness, you yourself admitted that you ignore past facts, and ridiculed Renauda for placing value in them. So your comment, however sarcastic, is true.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • A Aqua Letifer
                              24 Feb 2021, 00:49

                              @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                              Apparently you know more about the facts than I do.

                              In all fairness, you yourself admitted that you ignore past facts, and ridiculed Renauda for placing value in them. So your comment, however sarcastic, is true.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:56 last edited by
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                              @aqua-letifer said in The Big Lie:

                              @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                              Apparently you know more about the facts than I do.

                              In all fairness, you yourself admitted that you ignore past facts, and ridiculed Renauda for placing value in them. So your comment, however sarcastic, is true.

                              I think you quoted the wrong guy, but literally I never admitted to ignoring past facts. I admitted to thinking twice and thrice when someone historical name drops as if they have some deep knowledge of some deep concept that applies directly to our current lives. I'm very confident that such stuff tends to be BS. People are drawn to it because people are learners. Good for them. But they want it to mean more than it actually does.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 00:59 last edited by Renauda
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                                Kindly keep me out of your spat, gentlemen.

                                ![alt text](e1ce39a8-f45f-4a6b-8bd6-6f4f1cfb2379-image.png

                                Elbows up!

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                                • R Renauda
                                  24 Feb 2021, 00:59

                                  Kindly keep me out of your spat, gentlemen.

                                  ![alt text](e1ce39a8-f45f-4a6b-8bd6-6f4f1cfb2379-image.png

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 01:09 last edited by
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                                  @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                  Kindly keep me out of your spat, gentlemen.

                                  ![alt text](e1ce39a8-f45f-4a6b-8bd6-6f4f1cfb2379-image.png image url)

                                  Stalin was above it all.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • ? A Former User
                                    24 Feb 2021, 00:23

                                    @horace said in The Big Lie:

                                    @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                    @horace I agree one is a bigger problem than the other. But that is where we are surely bound to disagree.

                                    What did conservatives ever do to you?

                                    Spew their hypocrisy with every other sentence out of their mouths

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 01:30 last edited by
                                    #60

                                    @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                                    @horace said in The Big Lie:

                                    @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                    @horace I agree one is a bigger problem than the other. But that is where we are surely bound to disagree.

                                    What did conservatives ever do to you?

                                    Spew their hypocrisy with every other sentence out of their mouths

                                    That is a shocking statement.

                                    The conservatives that I know are generally a pretty consistent bunch.

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                                    • ? A Former User
                                      24 Feb 2021, 00:28

                                      @horace said in The Big Lie:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                                      @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                      Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                                      A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                                      The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                                      To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                                      Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                                      As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                                      Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 04:22 last edited by
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                                      @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                                      @horace said in The Big Lie:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                                      @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                      Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                                      A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                                      The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                                      To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                                      Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                                      As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                                      Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                                      And there are eyewitness accounts you fucked a chicken...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        24 Feb 2021, 04:22

                                        @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                                        @horace said in The Big Lie:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                                        @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                        Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                                        A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                                        The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                                        To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                                        Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                                        As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                                        Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                                        And there are eyewitness accounts you fucked a chicken...

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 04:59 last edited by
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                                        @jolly said in The Big Lie:

                                        @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                                        @horace said in The Big Lie:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                                        @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                        Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                                        A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                                        The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                                        To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                                        Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                                        As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                                        Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                                        And there are eyewitness accounts you fucked a chicken...

                                        That is shocking, NS. Your penis is so small that it fits in a chicken? I feel sorry for you.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          24 Feb 2021, 04:59

                                          @jolly said in The Big Lie:

                                          @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                                          @horace said in The Big Lie:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                                          @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                          Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                                          A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                                          The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                                          To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                                          Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                                          As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                                          Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                                          And there are eyewitness accounts you fucked a chicken...

                                          That is shocking, NS. Your penis is so small that it fits in a chicken? I feel sorry for you.

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                                          wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 08:03 last edited by
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                                          @horace said in The Big Lie:

                                          @jolly said in The Big Lie:

                                          @nobodyssock said in The Big Lie:

                                          @horace said in The Big Lie:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in The Big Lie:

                                          @renauda said in The Big Lie:

                                          Don't be so obtuse, Jolly. Phibes knows the difference and has unequivocally stated that he is repulsed by the violent fanaticism on both left and right.

                                          A second difference is that the violent fanaticism on the left, which in many cases is actually worse than that on the right, was not egged on by a former or current President of the United States.

                                          The fact that people cannot bring themselves to condemn this individual is pretty close to being tacit approval of the violence that took place in the Capitol.

                                          To call these people 'conservatives' is an insult to a great political tradition.

                                          Wokeism and anti-racism have absolutely been condoned by current and former presidents. I was particularly dismayed when GWB wrote an essay on systemic racism in the wake of George Floyd. It goes without saying that the Obamas, especially Michelle, are completely on board with the systemic racism narrative.

                                          As for Trump, I think he went too hard on the election theft thing, in service of his inability to admit to losing. Some doofi took that as permission to enter the Capitol, through unguarded, unlocked doors. Trump immediately told them to go home, and immediately made clear that the rule of law must exist. As it does not, to this day, in Portland.

                                          Bullshit. There are eyewitness accounts that he reveled in the stampede and took great joy watching it and couldnt understand why his aides looked on in horror. He only made statements long after the horses broke out of the barn due to the pressure of virtually everyone , his daughter, aides, congressmen telling him to say something to quell it. The guy is a monster. And anyone who has any respect for him still, is a fucking partisan idiot

                                          And there are eyewitness accounts you fucked a chicken...

                                          That is shocking, NS. Your penis is so small that it fits in a chicken? I feel sorry for you.

                                          Typical responses when their ox is gored. At least Larry is much more clever with his vulgarity. Your orange god is a sham. The sooner you can accept it, the quicker you can join the real world.

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