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  • C Catseye3
    18 Feb 2021, 13:07

    @horace said in RIP Rush.:

    A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

    Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

    As for Limbaugh: I wouldn't have wished his illness and suffering and death on him, but I'm not grieving, either. To me he was annoying.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 14:41 last edited by
    #76

    @catseye3 said in RIP Rush.:

    @horace said in RIP Rush.:

    A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

    Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

    Didn't have to pull a race card with Larry, he waved his indigenous ancestry in everyone's face. Granted he was self-deprecating about it but he nevertheless did it regularly.

    Elbows up!

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    • D Doctor Phibes
      18 Feb 2021, 13:12

      I remember at least one poster calling the late poster Whacky Iraqi a "sand nigger" before it was revealed that he was actually English, and white.

      So much for the kid glove theory.

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      Horace
      wrote on 20 Feb 2021, 20:40 last edited by
      #77

      @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

      I remember at least one poster calling the late poster Whacky Iraqi a "sand nigger" before it was revealed that he was actually English, and white.

      So much for the kid glove theory.

      sand n-word does not mean African American.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • R Renauda
        18 Feb 2021, 14:41

        @catseye3 said in RIP Rush.:

        @horace said in RIP Rush.:

        A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

        Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

        Didn't have to pull a race card with Larry, he waved his indigenous ancestry in everyone's face. Granted he was self-deprecating about it but he nevertheless did it regularly.

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        Horace
        wrote on 20 Feb 2021, 20:52 last edited by Horace
        #78

        @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

        @catseye3 said in RIP Rush.:

        @horace said in RIP Rush.:

        A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

        Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

        Didn't have to pull a race card with Larry, he waved his indigenous ancestry in everyone's face. Granted he was self-deprecating about it but he nevertheless did it regularly.

        Nobody cares about Larry's ancestry. My point, hopefully obviously, was to illustrate that African Americans, at least within America, are considered exceptional. Any of them who manages to reach the echelons of middle class existence are so much more than welcome. I don't work with a lot of them, in fact it's extraordinary when one is hired into a technical position. When I worked at the headquarters campus, the African American people were in maintenance and reception. I don't believe this is because hiring managers were intentionally trying to not hire them into technical positions. I blame it on pop culture and how it views African Americans, the hopelessness, which is relentlessly reinforced. Telling kids that they are going to be repressed is really bad.

        These sorts of ideas are not original to me, lots of smart African Americans would concur. It's just that the media doesn't tell anybody about it.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • H Horace
          20 Feb 2021, 20:52

          @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

          @catseye3 said in RIP Rush.:

          @horace said in RIP Rush.:

          A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

          Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

          Didn't have to pull a race card with Larry, he waved his indigenous ancestry in everyone's face. Granted he was self-deprecating about it but he nevertheless did it regularly.

          Nobody cares about Larry's ancestry. My point, hopefully obviously, was to illustrate that African Americans, at least within America, are considered exceptional. Any of them who manages to reach the echelons of middle class existence are so much more than welcome. I don't work with a lot of them, in fact it's extraordinary when one is hired into a technical position. When I worked at the headquarters campus, the African American people were in maintenance and reception. I don't believe this is because hiring managers were intentionally trying to not hire them into technical positions. I blame it on pop culture and how it views African Americans, the hopelessness, which is relentlessly reinforced. Telling kids that they are going to be repressed is really bad.

          These sorts of ideas are not original to me, lots of smart African Americans would concur. It's just that the media doesn't tell anybody about it.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 20 Feb 2021, 21:05 last edited by Doctor Phibes
          #79

          @horace I've hired two black engineers, and I actually had to let one of them go for poor performance.

          Your assertion that I would somehow not argue with Larry if he was black was very peculiar.

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            20 Feb 2021, 21:05

            @horace I've hired two black engineers, and I actually had to let one of them go for poor performance.

            Your assertion that I would somehow not argue with Larry if he was black was very peculiar.

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            Horace
            wrote on 20 Feb 2021, 21:12 last edited by
            #80

            @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

            @horace I've hired two black engineers, and I actually had to fire one of them for poor performance.

            Your assumption that I would somehow not argue with Larry if he was black was very peculiar.

            Well I've already said you didn't argue with him to begin with. I'm mostly speaking to native born Americans.

            I've watched African American colleagues get treated differently in meetings. I've never worked directly with a single one, to be honest, but we had some company training meeting (not race related) and there were two in the meeting I was in. There were about 20 people in the meeting and the leader, a white female, was so effusive in her praise of everything the black person said. Another white male in the meeting randomly yelled out how much he hated Trump. These things don't happen in real meetings.

            Then again, I'm in California. Personally, I would relish the opportunity to work with an African American. My company is working hard to make that happen.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 20 Feb 2021, 21:26 last edited by
              #81

              Yeah, we're having a big diversity drive at our place too. I think it's a sign of the times. I haven't found working with minorities to be any different from working with all the other foreigners I'm forced to deal with on a daily basis. People still occasionally ask me if I know "John", from London. I told a couple of them no, and furthermore that I can't stand Londoners. They looked surprised.

              I was only joking

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 21 Feb 2021, 02:33 last edited by
                #82

                Somewhat related

                (https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/rush-limbaugh-died-lung-cancer-after-denying-smoking-s-risk-ncna1258395)

                Not specifically about Rush Limbaugh, but interesting article about when people start believing their own lies and why they do.

                One paragraph

                QUOTE
                When people believe something about themselves, they don’t want to give it up, even in the face of evidence against their belief. One of the key aspects behind this phenomenon is our use of “motivated reasoning.” The definition of motivated reasoning I like best is writer Tim Harford’s, from a fascinating piece detailing how the world’s top authority on Dutch painters managed to convince himself a forged Johannes Vermeer painting was the real thing when it so obviously wasn’t. “Motivated reasoning is thinking through a topic with the aim of reaching a particular conclusion,” Harford explains. You know what you want to be true, so you let the outcome you desire guide your thinking.

                If you’re certain that you’re smarter than most other people and you tune out all evidence that contradicts that, why wouldn’t you believe yourself? This explains how blind spots become entrenched in one’s thinking.
                UNQUOTE

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                • T taiwan_girl
                  21 Feb 2021, 02:33

                  Somewhat related

                  (https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/rush-limbaugh-died-lung-cancer-after-denying-smoking-s-risk-ncna1258395)

                  Not specifically about Rush Limbaugh, but interesting article about when people start believing their own lies and why they do.

                  One paragraph

                  QUOTE
                  When people believe something about themselves, they don’t want to give it up, even in the face of evidence against their belief. One of the key aspects behind this phenomenon is our use of “motivated reasoning.” The definition of motivated reasoning I like best is writer Tim Harford’s, from a fascinating piece detailing how the world’s top authority on Dutch painters managed to convince himself a forged Johannes Vermeer painting was the real thing when it so obviously wasn’t. “Motivated reasoning is thinking through a topic with the aim of reaching a particular conclusion,” Harford explains. You know what you want to be true, so you let the outcome you desire guide your thinking.

                  If you’re certain that you’re smarter than most other people and you tune out all evidence that contradicts that, why wouldn’t you believe yourself? This explains how blind spots become entrenched in one’s thinking.
                  UNQUOTE

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 21 Feb 2021, 02:40 last edited by Jolly
                  #83

                  @taiwan_girl said in RIP Rush.:

                  Somewhat related

                  (https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/rush-limbaugh-died-lung-cancer-after-denying-smoking-s-risk-ncna1258395)

                  Not specifically about Rush Limbaugh, but interesting article about when people start believing their own lies and why they do.

                  One paragraph

                  QUOTE
                  When people believe something about themselves, they don’t want to give it up, even in the face of evidence against their belief. One of the key aspects behind this phenomenon is our use of “motivated reasoning.” The definition of motivated reasoning I like best is writer Tim Harford’s, from a fascinating piece detailing how the world’s top authority on Dutch painters managed to convince himself a forged Johannes Vermeer painting was the real thing when it so obviously wasn’t. “Motivated reasoning is thinking through a topic with the aim of reaching a particular conclusion,” Harford explains. You know what you want to be true, so you let the outcome you desire guide your thinking.

                  If you’re certain that you’re smarter than most other people and you tune out all evidence that contradicts that, why wouldn’t you believe yourself? This explains how blind spots become entrenched in one’s thinking.
                  UNQUOTE

                  And some people are like a reed in the wind and believe nothing.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    21 Feb 2021, 02:40

                    @taiwan_girl said in RIP Rush.:

                    Somewhat related

                    (https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/rush-limbaugh-died-lung-cancer-after-denying-smoking-s-risk-ncna1258395)

                    Not specifically about Rush Limbaugh, but interesting article about when people start believing their own lies and why they do.

                    One paragraph

                    QUOTE
                    When people believe something about themselves, they don’t want to give it up, even in the face of evidence against their belief. One of the key aspects behind this phenomenon is our use of “motivated reasoning.” The definition of motivated reasoning I like best is writer Tim Harford’s, from a fascinating piece detailing how the world’s top authority on Dutch painters managed to convince himself a forged Johannes Vermeer painting was the real thing when it so obviously wasn’t. “Motivated reasoning is thinking through a topic with the aim of reaching a particular conclusion,” Harford explains. You know what you want to be true, so you let the outcome you desire guide your thinking.

                    If you’re certain that you’re smarter than most other people and you tune out all evidence that contradicts that, why wouldn’t you believe yourself? This explains how blind spots become entrenched in one’s thinking.
                    UNQUOTE

                    And some people are like a reed in the wind and believe nothing.

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                    A Former User
                    wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 14:43 last edited by
                    #84

                    Many Republicans view Rush as the the guy who took the torch of "fuck the little guy" conservatism from Ronald Reagan. Rush set the stage, not only for the likes of Hannity and Fox news, but for the tea party idiots and Trumpism. Rush was their founding father, the modern day George Washington. And he made it popular to be a dick. The reason why his admirers like him so much is that he always stuck it to the libs. It didn't matter that he lied or misrepresented the truth. He pioneered the notion that the media was wrong and that only he and like-minded morons were the sole purveyors of the truth. He was a bloated sack of shit and his "ditto heads" are gullible imbeciles.

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                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      18 Feb 2021, 02:19

                      @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                      @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                      What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                      I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                      I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

                      I'm sad he left, too.

                      But, if you're going to dish it out as much as he did, I think you do have to be prepared to take a little back.

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                      A Former User
                      wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 14:50 last edited by A Former User
                      #85

                      @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                      @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                      @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                      What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                      I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                      I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

                      I'm sad he left, too.

                      But, if you're going to dish it out as much as he did, I think you do have to be prepared to take a little back.

                      The resident ahole left because he was one of the nutters that was soooooo sure Trump was going to keep his post even after the election showed most Americans wanted his ass gone. He is in his little sulk mode now but will crawl back eventually to harangue and harass as that is all he knows. Let’s see how many oxen I can gore today. In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds. Ooh baby!

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                      • ? A Former User
                        24 Feb 2021, 14:50

                        @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                        @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                        @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                        What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                        I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                        I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

                        I'm sad he left, too.

                        But, if you're going to dish it out as much as he did, I think you do have to be prepared to take a little back.

                        The resident ahole left because he was one of the nutters that was soooooo sure Trump was going to keep his post even after the election showed most Americans wanted his ass gone. He is in his little sulk mode now but will crawl back eventually to harangue and harass as that is all he knows. Let’s see how many oxen I can gore today. In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds. Ooh baby!

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 15:03 last edited by
                        #86

                        @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                        In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds.

                        They're small, but perfectly formed.

                        Or so I've heard.

                        I was only joking

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          24 Feb 2021, 15:03

                          @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                          In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds.

                          They're small, but perfectly formed.

                          Or so I've heard.

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                          A Former User
                          wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 15:05 last edited by
                          #87

                          @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                          @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                          In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds.

                          They're small, but perfectly formed.

                          Or so I've heard.

                          @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                          @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                          In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds.

                          They're small, but perfectly formed.

                          Or so I've heard.

                          Oh good! Just like my penis!

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                          • ? A Former User
                            24 Feb 2021, 15:05

                            @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                            @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                            In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds.

                            They're small, but perfectly formed.

                            Or so I've heard.

                            @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                            @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                            In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds.

                            They're small, but perfectly formed.

                            Or so I've heard.

                            Oh good! Just like my penis!

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 15:08 last edited by
                            #88

                            @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                            @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                            @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                            In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds.

                            They're small, but perfectly formed.

                            Or so I've heard.

                            @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                            @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                            In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds.

                            They're small, but perfectly formed.

                            Or so I've heard.

                            Oh good! Just like my penis!

                            Inny or outy?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • ? A Former User
                              24 Feb 2021, 14:50

                              @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                              @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                              @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                              What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                              I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                              I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

                              I'm sad he left, too.

                              But, if you're going to dish it out as much as he did, I think you do have to be prepared to take a little back.

                              The resident ahole left because he was one of the nutters that was soooooo sure Trump was going to keep his post even after the election showed most Americans wanted his ass gone. He is in his little sulk mode now but will crawl back eventually to harangue and harass as that is all he knows. Let’s see how many oxen I can gore today. In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds. Ooh baby!

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 15:10 last edited by
                              #89

                              @nobodyssock said in RIP Rush.:

                              @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                              @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                              @doctor-phibes said in RIP Rush.:

                              What exactly did I say to Larry that upset you so?

                              I honestly don't think I said anything particularly unpleasant.

                              I can't think of anything. I am only sad that he left.

                              I'm sad he left, too.

                              But, if you're going to dish it out as much as he did, I think you do have to be prepared to take a little back.

                              The resident ahole left because he was one of the nutters that was soooooo sure Trump was going to keep his post even after the election showed most Americans wanted his ass gone. He is in his little sulk mode now but will crawl back eventually to harangue and harass as that is all he knows. Let’s see how many oxen I can gore today. In the meantime, i am off to find some more Rhodes island reds. Ooh baby!

                              Nah, Limbaugh was successful because he drove idiots like you absolutely, bug-eyed nuts.

                              BTW, you don't live in Rio Linda?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • H Horace
                                20 Feb 2021, 20:52

                                @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                @catseye3 said in RIP Rush.:

                                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

                                Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

                                Didn't have to pull a race card with Larry, he waved his indigenous ancestry in everyone's face. Granted he was self-deprecating about it but he nevertheless did it regularly.

                                Nobody cares about Larry's ancestry. My point, hopefully obviously, was to illustrate that African Americans, at least within America, are considered exceptional. Any of them who manages to reach the echelons of middle class existence are so much more than welcome. I don't work with a lot of them, in fact it's extraordinary when one is hired into a technical position. When I worked at the headquarters campus, the African American people were in maintenance and reception. I don't believe this is because hiring managers were intentionally trying to not hire them into technical positions. I blame it on pop culture and how it views African Americans, the hopelessness, which is relentlessly reinforced. Telling kids that they are going to be repressed is really bad.

                                These sorts of ideas are not original to me, lots of smart African Americans would concur. It's just that the media doesn't tell anybody about it.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 17:32 last edited by
                                #90

                                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                @catseye3 said in RIP Rush.:

                                @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

                                Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

                                Didn't have to pull a race card with Larry, he waved his indigenous ancestry in everyone's face. Granted he was self-deprecating about it but he nevertheless did it regularly.

                                Nobody cares about Larry's ancestry. My point, hopefully obviously, was to illustrate that African Americans, at least within America, are considered exceptional. Any of them who manages to reach the echelons of middle class existence are so much more than welcome. I don't work with a lot of them, in fact it's extraordinary when one is hired into a technical position. When I worked at the headquarters campus, the African American people were in maintenance and reception. I don't believe this is because hiring managers were intentionally trying to not hire them into technical positions. I blame it on pop culture and how it views African Americans, the hopelessness, which is relentlessly reinforced. Telling kids that they are going to be repressed is really bad.

                                These sorts of ideas are not original to me, lots of smart African Americans would concur. It's just that the media doesn't tell anybody about it.

                                You don't say.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • R Renauda
                                  24 Feb 2021, 17:32

                                  @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @catseye3 said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                  A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

                                  Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

                                  Didn't have to pull a race card with Larry, he waved his indigenous ancestry in everyone's face. Granted he was self-deprecating about it but he nevertheless did it regularly.

                                  Nobody cares about Larry's ancestry. My point, hopefully obviously, was to illustrate that African Americans, at least within America, are considered exceptional. Any of them who manages to reach the echelons of middle class existence are so much more than welcome. I don't work with a lot of them, in fact it's extraordinary when one is hired into a technical position. When I worked at the headquarters campus, the African American people were in maintenance and reception. I don't believe this is because hiring managers were intentionally trying to not hire them into technical positions. I blame it on pop culture and how it views African Americans, the hopelessness, which is relentlessly reinforced. Telling kids that they are going to be repressed is really bad.

                                  These sorts of ideas are not original to me, lots of smart African Americans would concur. It's just that the media doesn't tell anybody about it.

                                  You don't say.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 17:37 last edited by
                                  #91

                                  @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @catseye3 said in RIP Rush.:

                                  @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                  A lack of self awareness. Not a lack of decency, which I fully believe you have. I think you absolutely would not have had an identical reaction to Larry if you thought he was African American. You would have donned the kid gloves.

                                  Can't speak for Phibes (though I can guess), but for me that is bullshit of the purest ray serene.

                                  Didn't have to pull a race card with Larry, he waved his indigenous ancestry in everyone's face. Granted he was self-deprecating about it but he nevertheless did it regularly.

                                  Nobody cares about Larry's ancestry. My point, hopefully obviously, was to illustrate that African Americans, at least within America, are considered exceptional. Any of them who manages to reach the echelons of middle class existence are so much more than welcome. I don't work with a lot of them, in fact it's extraordinary when one is hired into a technical position. When I worked at the headquarters campus, the African American people were in maintenance and reception. I don't believe this is because hiring managers were intentionally trying to not hire them into technical positions. I blame it on pop culture and how it views African Americans, the hopelessness, which is relentlessly reinforced. Telling kids that they are going to be repressed is really bad.

                                  These sorts of ideas are not original to me, lots of smart African Americans would concur. It's just that the media doesn't tell anybody about it.

                                  You don't say.

                                  Well, you don't say. I do say. Exactly one of us values an opportunity to use his words to explain his thoughts. The other poses.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 17:40 last edited by
                                    #92

                                    Then stop posing, Mr. Horace.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      24 Feb 2021, 17:40

                                      Then stop posing, Mr. Horace.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 17:44 last edited by
                                      #93

                                      @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                      Then stop posing, Mr. Horace.

                                      I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say to me sticks to you.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • H Horace
                                        24 Feb 2021, 17:44

                                        @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                        Then stop posing, Mr. Horace.

                                        I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say to me sticks to you.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 17:48 last edited by
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                                        @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                        @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                        Then stop posing, Mr. Horace.

                                        I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say to bounce off me sticks to you.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          24 Feb 2021, 17:44

                                          @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                          Then stop posing, Mr. Horace.

                                          I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say to me sticks to you.

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                                          wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 18:11 last edited by Renauda
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                                          @horace said in RIP Rush.:

                                          @renauda said in RIP Rush.:

                                          Then stop posing, Mr. Horace.

                                          I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say to me sticks to you.

                                          Dosen't bother me. The term African-American is specific to the USA so I will not comment on its use or reference. I have however known and worked with black African immigrants as well as black immigrants from the Caribbean. All were highly educated and motivated in their jobs. Some years ago when I worked for an oilwell drilling equipment company, I went out to a rig site where there were two black labourers who looked after cleaning, storage and simple maintenance of the drilling tools. The Tool Push introduced them to me as Midnight and Five To. When I gave the Push a confused look, he said," we call them that because no one can remember their names. But this one, Midnight, is darker than his friend here, so we call him Five To 'cause he's not quite Midnight. We call them that so's we can tell them apart".

                                          So yeah, that's my experience minuscule as it is. I guess that is how pop culture works up here.

                                          Elbows up!

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