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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 00:47 last edited by
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    I will admit that I dont know much about the situation, but I know it is very important from a "history" standpoint.

    But, why is Israel important from a "strategy" standpoint?

    (From what I know, I believe that Israel has been, and should continue to be, a strong ally of the US. I hope the President Biden does not think differently. I think it is important to maintain good relations with allies.)

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      13 Feb 2021, 00:47

      I will admit that I dont know much about the situation, but I know it is very important from a "history" standpoint.

      But, why is Israel important from a "strategy" standpoint?

      (From what I know, I believe that Israel has been, and should continue to be, a strong ally of the US. I hope the President Biden does not think differently. I think it is important to maintain good relations with allies.)

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      Renauda
      wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 01:23 last edited by Renauda
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      @taiwan_girl said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

      I will admit that I dont know much about the situation, but I know it is very important from a "history" standpoint.

      Not to worry. Other than bachophile, I doubt anyone here knows much about it either. And even then, those that purport to know will never concede that bach knows much more than they do.

      All I know is that Biden will not abandon Israel as an ally, despite the fact he most likely does not agree with Bibi Netanyahu's politics.

      Elbows up!

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        13 Feb 2021, 01:23

        @taiwan_girl said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

        I will admit that I dont know much about the situation, but I know it is very important from a "history" standpoint.

        Not to worry. Other than bachophile, I doubt anyone here knows much about it either. And even then, those that purport to know will never concede that bach knows much more than they do.

        All I know is that Biden will not abandon Israel as an ally, despite the fact he most likely does not agree with Bibi Netanyahu's politics.

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        George K
        wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 01:33 last edited by
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        @renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

        All I know is that Biden will not abandon Israel as an ally

        That may well be true.

        Care to speculate why his spokesperson didn't acknowledge it, when, days earlier, it cited China as an ally?

        Yeah, I know "Pay attention to what they do, not what they say." But tell that to the impeachment guys what they say does have some weight, no?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 01:58 last edited by
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          @renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

          @taiwan_girl said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

          I will admit that I dont know much about the situation, but I know it is very important from a "history" standpoint.

          Not to worry. Other than bachophile, I doubt anyone here knows much about it either. And even then, those that purport to know will never concede that bach knows much more than they do.

          All I know is that Biden will not abandon Israel as an ally, despite the fact he most likely does not agree with Bibi Netanyahu's politics.

          I know enough to skim the surface.

          What do you know?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            xenon
            wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 02:20 last edited by xenon
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            Well the question was do you consider “Saudi Arabia and Israel to be allies”.

            She might have been hesitant to saw it just for SA (or maybe not). Israel should be called an ally.

            It’s not clear from that exchange that they don’t consider Israel an ally. (It’s not clear that they do either)

            She’s also not all that great of a speaker (I haven’t heard her before) - judging just from that clip.

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            • X xenon
              13 Feb 2021, 02:20

              Well the question was do you consider “Saudi Arabia and Israel to be allies”.

              She might have been hesitant to saw it just for SA (or maybe not). Israel should be called an ally.

              It’s not clear from that exchange that they don’t consider Israel an ally. (It’s not clear that they do either)

              She’s also not all that great of a speaker (I haven’t heard her before) - judging just from that clip.

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              George K
              wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 02:28 last edited by
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              @xenon NBC says the Biden administration has referred to Canada, Britain, France, Japan and China as "allies."

              Not yet to Israel.

              But yeah, China.

              So, is China an ally?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 02:31 last edited by
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                Americans are obsessed with Israel. They'll boast about not giving a fuck about any other countries, but Israel....that's a different story.

                You'd think it was the holy land or something.

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  13 Feb 2021, 02:31

                  Americans are obsessed with Israel. They'll boast about not giving a fuck about any other countries, but Israel....that's a different story.

                  You'd think it was the holy land or something.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 02:39 last edited by
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                  @doctor-phibes said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                  Americans are obsessed with Israel.

                  Watch it.

                  Someone will accuse you of being an anti-Semite....

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 03:10 last edited by
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                    Some twat, possibly.

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                    • G George K
                      13 Feb 2021, 02:28

                      @xenon NBC says the Biden administration has referred to Canada, Britain, France, Japan and China as "allies."

                      Not yet to Israel.

                      But yeah, China.

                      So, is China an ally?

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 03:29 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                      NBC says the Biden administration has referred to Canada, Britain, France, Japan and China as "allies."

                      Interesting. In the Taiwan news, they are mainly reporting that President Biden has said that China is the #1 competitor against the US. Different "way to phrase" for different audience I guess.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 03:31 last edited by
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                        Biden isn't dumb enough to think that China is an ally.

                        Nobody thinks that.

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          13 Feb 2021, 03:31

                          Biden isn't dumb enough to think that China is an ally.

                          Nobody thinks that.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 03:54 last edited by
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                          @doctor-phibes said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                          Biden isn't dumb enough to think that China is an ally.

                          Nobody thinks that.

                          There is a difference between dumb and senile.

                          Senile people believe almost anything.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • J Jolly
                            13 Feb 2021, 03:54

                            @doctor-phibes said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                            Biden isn't dumb enough to think that China is an ally.

                            Nobody thinks that.

                            There is a difference between dumb and senile.

                            Senile people believe almost anything.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 04:27 last edited by
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                            @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                            Senile people believe almost anything.

                            Like he won in a landslide, like there was widespread massive voter fraud, like the VPOTUS could overturn electoral college results, like COVID-19 could go away on its own, etc.

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                            • A Axtremus
                              13 Feb 2021, 04:27

                              @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                              Senile people believe almost anything.

                              Like he won in a landslide, like there was widespread massive voter fraud, like the VPOTUS could overturn electoral college results, like COVID-19 could go away on its own, etc.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 04:40 last edited by
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                              @axtremus said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                              @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                              Senile people believe almost anything.

                              Like he won in a landslide, like there was widespread massive voter fraud, like the VPOTUS could overturn electoral college results, like COVID-19 could go away on its own, etc.

                              Yes, Biden thinks he won in an electoral landslide.

                              Of course, he also likes to grope children. There is a reason some people now refer to the team in the White House as "Pedo Joe and the Ho".

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                12 Feb 2021, 23:44

                                Enjoy!

                                Biden doesn't like Israel.

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                                bachophile
                                wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 05:43 last edited by bachophile
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                                @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                Enjoy!

                                Biden doesn't like Israel.

                                I think u really believe that

                                Kinda sad.

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                                  bachophile
                                  wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 06:06 last edited by
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                                  Former head of military intelligence

                                  Straight talker.

                                  What matters is not the stupid things in headlights, yes phone call no phone call

                                  What matters is what’s really said and done between two allies

                                  The public stuff is fluff and irrelevant. It has its uses. But it’s not the meat and potatoes.

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                                    13 Feb 2021, 05:43

                                    @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                    Enjoy!

                                    Biden doesn't like Israel.

                                    I think u really believe that

                                    Kinda sad.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 12:23 last edited by
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                                    @bachophile said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                    @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                    Enjoy!

                                    Biden doesn't like Israel.

                                    I think u really believe that

                                    Kinda sad.

                                    Here's what I believe... I believe Joe has never been a die-on-this-hill politician. He's made a career out of the smile, handshake and the stance of the moment. Right now, he's elderly, declining in his mental faculties and intensely monitored and handled by his team.

                                    His team is much more influenced by current Dem (read Leftist) thought, than perhaps Joe is. Part of that current Dem thought aligns nicely with Ms. KathyK's historical thoughts about Israel and its place in the world. I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      13 Feb 2021, 01:58

                                      @renauda said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                      I will admit that I dont know much about the situation, but I know it is very important from a "history" standpoint.

                                      Not to worry. Other than bachophile, I doubt anyone here knows much about it either. And even then, those that purport to know will never concede that bach knows much more than they do.

                                      All I know is that Biden will not abandon Israel as an ally, despite the fact he most likely does not agree with Bibi Netanyahu's politics.

                                      I know enough to skim the surface.

                                      What do you know?

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 15:04 last edited by
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                                      @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                      What do you know?

                                      Enough to know that I don't know very much about it.

                                      Elbows up!

                                      HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply 13 Feb 2021, 16:18
                                      • J Jolly
                                        13 Feb 2021, 12:23

                                        @bachophile said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                        @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                        Enjoy!

                                        Biden doesn't like Israel.

                                        I think u really believe that

                                        Kinda sad.

                                        Here's what I believe... I believe Joe has never been a die-on-this-hill politician. He's made a career out of the smile, handshake and the stance of the moment. Right now, he's elderly, declining in his mental faculties and intensely monitored and handled by his team.

                                        His team is much more influenced by current Dem (read Leftist) thought, than perhaps Joe is. Part of that current Dem thought aligns nicely with Ms. KathyK's historical thoughts about Israel and its place in the world. I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 15:19 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                        #22

                                        @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                        I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

                                        I think you're spending too much time in the right wing echo chamber.

                                        Of course, as we know there's absolutely no anti-semitism amongst the far right. Anybody who thinks otherwise will be shot with a Jewish space-laser.

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          13 Feb 2021, 15:19

                                          @jolly said in White House Spox won't say that Israel is an ally:

                                          I think a lot of this current crop of Dems secretly wish the Germans would have finished the job...

                                          I think you're spending too much time in the right wing echo chamber.

                                          Of course, as we know there's absolutely no anti-semitism amongst the far right. Anybody who thinks otherwise will be shot with a Jewish space-laser.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 13 Feb 2021, 15:21 last edited by
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