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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    What I found illuminating was how many of her followers jumped right in with her.

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    @lufins-dad said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

    What I found illuminating was how many of her followers jumped right in with her.

    That's the story.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      That's one of my favourite Shakespearean quotes.

      It's ironic how many people piled on with her, and also how many people who are now piling on against her probably had no freaking idea where the quote came from, either.

      I can't speak for the rest of the country, but my kids have been far too busy learning about America to do much Shakespeare.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        That's one of my favourite Shakespearean quotes.

        It's ironic how many people piled on with her, and also how many people who are now piling on against her probably had no freaking idea where the quote came from, either.

        I can't speak for the rest of the country, but my kids have been far too busy learning about America to do much Shakespeare.

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        @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

        I can't speak for the rest of the country, but my kids have been far too busy learning about America to do much Shakespeare.

        Which was, ironically (or not), her own excuse.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

          I can't speak for the rest of the country, but my kids have been far too busy learning about America to do much Shakespeare.

          Which was, ironically (or not), her own excuse.

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          @george-k said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

          @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

          I can't speak for the rest of the country, but my kids have been far too busy learning about America to do much Shakespeare.

          Which was, ironically (or not), her own excuse.

          "Don't Quote What You Don't Understand."
          —Diogenes, speaking to a crowd at Slugfest '89

          Please love yourself.

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            ???

            Who is Faulkner?

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            • KlausK Klaus

              ???

              Who is Faulkner?

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              @klaus like an American asking who is Goethe

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                I know that there's a famous writer of that name, but I still don't get it. Maybe I'm missing background on Faulkner (which doesn't extend much beyond knowing the name).

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                  OK, I see, it seems to be a confusion around a novel by Faulkner, "The Sound and the Fury", whose title was inspired by Shakespeare.

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                    Bottom line - Faulkner ripped off a Shakespearean line, and now the yanks are trying to pretend they invented it.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      Bottom line - Faulkner ripped off a Shakespearean line, and now the yanks are trying to pretend they invented it.

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                      @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                      Bottom line - Faulkner ripped off a Shakespearean line, and now the yanks are trying to pretend they invented it.

                      I guess it's ok, since Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare.😄

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                        Bottom line - Faulkner ripped off a Shakespearean line, and now the yanks are trying to pretend they invented it.

                        I guess it's ok, since Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare.😄

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                        @jolly said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                        Bottom line - Faulkner ripped off a Shakespearean line, and now the yanks are trying to pretend they invented it.

                        I guess it's ok, since Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare.😄

                        The Bard was actually The Brad?

                        I was only joking

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                          True story - my dad worked with a guy named Bill Shakespeare. He had a hell of a time booking hotel rooms.

                          I was only joking

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                            Bottom line - Faulkner ripped off a Shakespearean line, and now the yanks are trying to pretend they invented it.

                            I guess it's ok, since Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare.😄

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                            @jolly said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                            I guess it's ok, since Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare.😄

                            They say it was actually another guy with the same name.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              @bachophile said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                              Well Faulkner did write the sound and the fury. But she was honest enough to apologize.

                              True, but speed kills and the glee and sarcasm got smoked. It’s called being out over your skills and it was a yard sale ending.

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                              @loki said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                              ... it was a yard sale ending.

                              Love this. 😀

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                ???

                                Who is Faulkner?

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                                @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                ???

                                Who is Faulkner?

                                The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                  ???

                                  Who is Faulkner?

                                  The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

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                                  @aqua-letifer said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                  @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                  ???

                                  Who is Faulkner?

                                  The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

                                  Don't you mean Truman Capote? 😉

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @aqua-letifer said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                    @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                    ???

                                    Who is Faulkner?

                                    The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

                                    Don't you mean Truman Capote? 😉

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                    @aqua-letifer said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                    @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                    ???

                                    Who is Faulkner?

                                    The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

                                    Don't you mean Truman Capote? 😉

                                    Well yeah, they both did if you wanna go that route.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                      @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                      ???

                                      Who is Faulkner?

                                      The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

                                      Don't you mean Truman Capote? 😉

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                                      @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                      @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                      ???

                                      Who is Faulkner?

                                      The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

                                      Don't you mean Truman Capote? 😉

                                      Hey Phibes, I'm curious.
                                      Growing up in England, were the works of Shakespeare studied heavily in school, like memorizing large portions of the plays, studying what everything means, etc. Or, was it all just as confusing as it was for kids in public school here? I don't think it's part of the curriculum any longer, because it's just awful stuff or white or something.

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                                        @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                        @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                        ???

                                        Who is Faulkner?

                                        The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

                                        Don't you mean Truman Capote? 😉

                                        Hey Phibes, I'm curious.
                                        Growing up in England, were the works of Shakespeare studied heavily in school, like memorizing large portions of the plays, studying what everything means, etc. Or, was it all just as confusing as it was for kids in public school here? I don't think it's part of the curriculum any longer, because it's just awful stuff or white or something.

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                                        @rainman said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                        @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                        ???

                                        Who is Faulkner?

                                        The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

                                        Don't you mean Truman Capote? 😉

                                        Hey Phibes, I'm curious.
                                        Growing up in England, were the works of Shakespeare studied heavily in school, like memorizing large portions of the plays, studying what everything means, etc. Or, was it all just as confusing as it was for kids in public school here? I don't think it's part of the curriculum any longer, because it's just awful stuff or white or something.

                                        I stopped studying English at 16, but we had to study Shakespeare before then, amongst other things. We didn't memorise plays or anything, but we did spend quite a bit of time on it. The play I learned about was The Merchant of Venice, which might be considered a bit dodgy nowadays because of the anti-semitism.

                                        The brutal stuff as far as I was concerned was Wordsworth. I hated that stuff. Sorry, Aqua.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @rainman said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                          @klaus said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                          ???

                                          Who is Faulkner?

                                          The guy that Harper Lee completely ripped off.

                                          Don't you mean Truman Capote? 😉

                                          Hey Phibes, I'm curious.
                                          Growing up in England, were the works of Shakespeare studied heavily in school, like memorizing large portions of the plays, studying what everything means, etc. Or, was it all just as confusing as it was for kids in public school here? I don't think it's part of the curriculum any longer, because it's just awful stuff or white or something.

                                          I stopped studying English at 16, but we had to study Shakespeare before then, amongst other things. We didn't memorise plays or anything, but we did spend quite a bit of time on it. The play I learned about was The Merchant of Venice, which might be considered a bit dodgy nowadays because of the anti-semitism.

                                          The brutal stuff as far as I was concerned was Wordsworth. I hated that stuff. Sorry, Aqua.

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                                          @doctor-phibes said in Andrea Mitchell ("journalist") comments on Ted Cruz's comment.:

                                          The brutal stuff as far as I was concerned was Wordsworth. I hated that stuff. Sorry, Aqua.

                                          When students get repulsed by an author's work, it's pretty much never the author's fault. It's the curriculum. Our school system is designed to turn kids into factory workers. Of course you hated Wordsworth.

                                          No pressure, but there's a route you can take to learn to appreciate his stuff. The trick is to find it, but it's there. There's a reason you know who he is.

                                          Please love yourself.

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