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Could McConnell vote to convict?

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    xenon
    wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 21:07 last edited by
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    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/02/10/trump-is-furious-and-mcconnell-might-vote-to-convict-491702

    I can't see it being a real possibility. He has been throwing shade Trump's way though (saying things he doesn't have to).

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    • X xenon
      10 Feb 2021, 21:07

      https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/02/10/trump-is-furious-and-mcconnell-might-vote-to-convict-491702

      I can't see it being a real possibility. He has been throwing shade Trump's way though (saying things he doesn't have to).

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 01:54 last edited by
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      @xenon I dont think so either. From (the very little I know) about Senator McConnell, he is a very good politician. I think he would vote to impeach if he knew the impeachment conviction was going to happen.

      If it appears it is not going to happen (which I think will be what happens), he will not vote for impeachment conviction, even if he thinks an impeachment conviction vote is the right way to vote. There is not enough "upside" for him to go against the rest of the Republics.

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        Loki
        wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 04:01 last edited by
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        Not really a question. No

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 11:39 last edited by
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          Maybe 2 weeks ago I heard someone close to his staff say it was likely. I was skeptical then, and moreso now.

          However, if the vote were secret, 100.0% chance he would.

          Kabuki theater, after all.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • J jon-nyc
            11 Feb 2021, 11:39

            Maybe 2 weeks ago I heard someone close to his staff say it was likely. I was skeptical then, and moreso now.

            However, if the vote were secret, 100.0% chance he would.

            Kabuki theater, after all.

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            Loki
            wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 12:06 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Could McConnell vote to convict?:

            Maybe 2 weeks ago I heard someone close to his staff say it was likely. I was skeptical then, and moreso now.

            However, if the vote were secret, 100.0% chance he would.

            Kabuki theater, after all.

            Would you support a secret vote? If you wouldn’t I don’t think it’s right to make the statement you did.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 13:07 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Nov 2021, 14:44
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              That doesn’t make any sense.

              Can I say “if Al Qaeda had a suitcase nuclear, they’d use it in New York” without wishing them to have one?

              Can I say “if the GOP had held the Senate, they’d obstruct any Biden SCOTUS nominee and hold the seat open indefinitely” without wishing they’d won?

              Can you be more precise as to when you think it’s “right” to have an opinion about a contingent or hypothetical event?

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • J jon-nyc
                11 Feb 2021, 13:07

                That doesn’t make any sense.

                Can I say “if Al Qaeda had a suitcase nuclear, they’d use it in New York” without wishing them to have one?

                Can I say “if the GOP had held the Senate, they’d obstruct any Biden SCOTUS nominee and hold the seat open indefinitely” without wishing they’d won?

                Can you be more precise as to when you think it’s “right” to have an opinion about a contingent or hypothetical event?

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                Loki
                wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 14:44 last edited by Loki 2 Nov 2021, 14:45
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                @jon-nyc said in Could McConnell vote to convict?:

                That doesn’t make any sense.

                Can I say “if Al Qaeda had a suitcase nuclear, they’d use it in New York” without wishing them to have one?

                Can I say “if the GOP had held the Senate, they’d obstruct any Scotus nominee and hod the seat open indefinitely” without wishing they’d won?

                Can you be more precise as to when you think it’s “right” to have an opinion about a contingent or hypothetical event?

                Intellectually it strikes me as trying to have it both ways. If one is committed to an approach, they should deem the outcome to be just and fair.

                “If Tome Brady had stayed with the patriots, the chiefs would have won the Super Bowl”.

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                  bachophile
                  wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 14:50 last edited by bachophile 2 Nov 2021, 14:51
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                  All he is saying that he probably would want to have him convicted but because it’s not politically expedient then he won’t vote publicly for it.

                  Makes perfect sense to me.

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                  • B bachophile
                    11 Feb 2021, 14:50

                    All he is saying that he probably would want to have him convicted but because it’s not politically expedient then he won’t vote publicly for it.

                    Makes perfect sense to me.

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 15:07 last edited by
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                    @bachophile said in Could McConnell vote to convict?:

                    All he is saying that he probably would want to have him convicted but because it’s not politically expedient then he won’t vote publicly for it.

                    Makes perfect sense to me.

                    So if reality were different we would have a different result. You could literally say that about anything.

                    I do get your point but this parsing is no way to run a railroad. If you are for a secret vote just push for that.

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