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How will COVID change the workplace?

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  • MikM Offline
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    Hmm. Can't say as I do.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Wonder what will happen to all those "shared space" businesses (e.g., WeWork and the like).
      Free lancers and big companies alike have figured out that they can just work from home, and it's hard to imagine "shared space" facilities supporting the sort of work that cannot be done from home anyway. The whole "shared space" sector is going to shrink significantly even after we have effective vaccines.

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        That was always a rather limited market. A lot of the purpose was to give the illusion of substance to rather diaphanous enterprises. Both MFR and I looked into them but thought them too expensive for what they provided. Some of the incubator spaces were interesting.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          That was always a rather limited market. A lot of the purpose was to give the illusion of substance to rather diaphanous enterprises. Both MFR and I looked into them but thought them too expensive for what they provided. Some of the incubator spaces were interesting.

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          @Mik said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

          That was always a rather limited market. A lot of the purpose was to give the illusion of substance to rather diaphanous enterprises. Both MFR and I looked into them but thought them too expensive for what they provided. Some of the incubator spaces were interesting.

          Many of them touted "collaboration" and "meeting people across industries." But a ton of folks who were signing up for these places were freelancers: coders, graphic designers, writers, etc. So okay, you're working for a client on a website refresh, and the two folks sitting across from you are making infographics and editing white papers. Just what in the hell is so great about you three sitting across from one another? What could you possibly provide one another in that setting that you don't get from LinkedIn?

          Please love yourself.

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            @Mik said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

            That was always a rather limited market. A lot of the purpose was to give the illusion of substance to rather diaphanous enterprises. Both MFR and I looked into them but thought them too expensive for what they provided. Some of the incubator spaces were interesting.

            Many of them touted "collaboration" and "meeting people across industries." But a ton of folks who were signing up for these places were freelancers: coders, graphic designers, writers, etc. So okay, you're working for a client on a website refresh, and the two folks sitting across from you are making infographics and editing white papers. Just what in the hell is so great about you three sitting across from one another? What could you possibly provide one another in that setting that you don't get from LinkedIn?

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

            @Mik said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

            That was always a rather limited market. A lot of the purpose was to give the illusion of substance to rather diaphanous enterprises. Both MFR and I looked into them but thought them too expensive for what they provided. Some of the incubator spaces were interesting.

            Many of them touted "collaboration" and "meeting people across industries." But a ton of folks who were signing up for these places were freelancers: coders, graphic designers, writers, etc. So okay, you're working for a client on a website refresh, and the two folks sitting across from you are making infographics and editing white papers. Just what in the hell is so great about you three sitting across from one another? What could you possibly provide one another in that setting that you don't get from LinkedIn?

            Social interaction?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              @Aqua-Letifer said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

              @Mik said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

              That was always a rather limited market. A lot of the purpose was to give the illusion of substance to rather diaphanous enterprises. Both MFR and I looked into them but thought them too expensive for what they provided. Some of the incubator spaces were interesting.

              Many of them touted "collaboration" and "meeting people across industries." But a ton of folks who were signing up for these places were freelancers: coders, graphic designers, writers, etc. So okay, you're working for a client on a website refresh, and the two folks sitting across from you are making infographics and editing white papers. Just what in the hell is so great about you three sitting across from one another? What could you possibly provide one another in that setting that you don't get from LinkedIn?

              Social interaction?

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              @Jolly said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

              @Mik said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

              That was always a rather limited market. A lot of the purpose was to give the illusion of substance to rather diaphanous enterprises. Both MFR and I looked into them but thought them too expensive for what they provided. Some of the incubator spaces were interesting.

              Many of them touted "collaboration" and "meeting people across industries." But a ton of folks who were signing up for these places were freelancers: coders, graphic designers, writers, etc. So okay, you're working for a client on a website refresh, and the two folks sitting across from you are making infographics and editing white papers. Just what in the hell is so great about you three sitting across from one another? What could you possibly provide one another in that setting that you don't get from LinkedIn?

              Social interaction?

              Dude just go to a coffee shop. (Yeah yeah I know, not today. But we're talking about why shared workspaces became a business, not what to do today about COVID-19.) Be much, much cheaper. Or even better, team up with actual colleagues and start a collective.

              Please love yourself.

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              • MikM Mik

                Yep. Telemedicine too. Actually, teleeverything that can be done that way. I can see law offices, insurance, car buying to a degree

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                @Mik said in How will COVID change the workplace?:

                Yep. Telemedicine too. Actually, teleeverything that can be done that way. I can see law offices, insurance, car buying to a degree

                My wife works for a law firm and is working from home just fine.

                The big losers in all of this will be commercial builders and owners of commercial real estate.

                Most companies will find they can downsize their office spaces if telework actually does take off.

                We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                  Yeah, Improv, but I have a sneaking suspicion that office space might have to expand for distancing, so all that real estate lost to telework may be taken up by new space requirements. The question is will American business take heed and try to make a pandemic-proof workspace. It is an investment, but certainly better than shutting down next time.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Good point. May be a wash.

                    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                      Currently, our office building is partially leased to a health-care clinic - we own the building, but it's shared with a medical group.

                      I can see that being considered a little less attractive as a business arrangement than it once was.

                      I was only joking

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