It's 3 months since the election....
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@renauda said in It's 3 months since the election....:
I took the dog for a walk today ( -27 C) and saw a few signs too. SAVE OUR PARKS was a common one. Another was NO LOT SPLITTING! There was yet another left over from summer lawn season, proclaiming WE GO BAGLESS. On a couple of homes you could a sign declaring We Vote CBC!
Different country, different priorities I guess, eh?
Just between you and me, there's a reason I held onto my Canadian citizenship.
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@doctor-phibes said in It's 3 months since the election....:
It's not the Trump sign that's funny, it's the fact that they taped over the Pence with blue duct tape.
Of all the people who could be described a guilty of doing something awful during the last election, Mike Pence was clearly not one of them. And yet they have attempted to cancel him.
Well, the good news is that they have no backup from non-crazies in pop culture. Therefore their power is almost nill.
As long as we manage to lock the Capitol doors.
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I would agree that health care is human right.
Though I still wouldn't allow a sign on my lawn about it.
In fact there is precious little for which I would put a sign on my lawn. I have never permitted any political endorsement placards or signs on my property during elections.
I do however fly the Red Ensign (look it up) from our second storey balcony on Queen Victoria's birthday in May and the Canadian Armed Forces Flag on Remembrance Day on 11 November.
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@renauda said in It's 3 months since the election....:
I would agree that health care is human right.
I would agree that black lives matter, that science is real, that love is love, that women's rights are human rights. It's just that you have to take all those phrases literally.
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Maybe go with "ALL TRUMPISTS ARE FAGGITS"?
I'd pay for a ticket just to hangout in your neighborhood during the fallout.
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@aqua-letifer said in It's 3 months since the election....:
Maybe go with "ALL TRUMPISTS ARE FAGGITS"?
I'd pay for a ticket just to hangout in your neighborhood during the fallout.
I'm not sure if you're talking to me, but there would be no fallout. I do remember the time a guy ran out of his house yelling at me while my wife and I were walking my dog, (hers wasn't here yet,) because my dog had poked his nose across his gate. (Really it was because he was at his open front window, which I understood in retrospect, as I explained to my wife that the reason he has the no trespassing sign, while nobody else in the neighborhood does, is because he's a paranoid freak.) He was running towards me and yelling and before he got too close to me and my wife I apologized and he retreated.
Then a couple months later I was walking my dog alone and I noticed him on his doorstep, and I went up to him and went ahead and called him a pussy, his wife came out, his neighbor came out (these are closely spaced houses), and I just continued to call the little bitch a little bitch now that I'm alone and not with my wife. I didn't appreciate some bitch approaching me like he'd hurt me. I encouraged them to call the cops if they wanted to, but until then I'd continue to call the guy a bitch. He, in front of his wife (this time) and his neighbor, then apologized and I walked away. Eventually the Next Door app would call that guy out as an alleged racist and I ended up coming to his defense there. Funny how life works.
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@renauda said in It's 3 months since the election....:
I would agree that health care is human right.
So do I. Of course, rights aren’t things granted and given to you by government. They are intrinsic freedoms that are protected from government infringement and intrusion. The very thought of government run healthcare is antithetical to the idea of healthcare as a human right.
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@lufins-dad said in It's 3 months since the election....:
@renauda said in It's 3 months since the election....:
I would agree that health care is human right.
So do I. Of course, rights aren’t things granted and given to you by government. They are intrinsic freedoms that are protected from government infringement and intrusion. The very thought of government run healthcare is antithetical to the idea of healthcare as a human right.
That's a pretty hefty cop-out when the "choice," provided to us by America's majestic liberty, is to get my gallbladder taken out to potentially save my life, or put my entire family into crippling debt from which they will never recover.
That nearly happened to me, and I had decent insurance at the time. The only thing that saved me was some weird-ass agreement between the doc and the hospital that I never knew existed. I also didn't know that this was the choice I was signing myself up for when I had to be driven to the ER because I couldn't walk on my own.
It's obvious when socialism becomes tyrannical: the state keeps you from the freedoms that matter. But capitalism can do that very thing, only it does so through false choices. That's my litmus test: whenever you have false choices set up by private enterprise, that's when government needs to step in at least to the level in which choices no longer become tyrannical.
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Hold on
Are you trying to tell me that everyone in the country doesn't get an unlimited amount of healthcare for free?
What kind of a country is this?
We should all get a unlimited supply of everything for free.
And nobody should ever get sick or die.
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@lufins-dad said in It's 3 months since the election....:
So do I. Of course, rights aren’t things granted and given to you by government. They are intrinsic freedoms that are protected from government infringement and intrusion. The very thought of government run healthcare is antithetical to the idea of healthcare as a human right.
How does that philosophy work for all the other utilities industries?
You want to remove government oversight of water and electricity supply?
Sod that.
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@doctor-phibes said in It's 3 months since the election....:
@lufins-dad said in It's 3 months since the election....:
So do I. Of course, rights aren’t things granted and given to you by government. They are intrinsic freedoms that are protected from government infringement and intrusion. The very thought of government run healthcare is antithetical to the idea of healthcare as a human right.
How does that philosophy work for all the other utilities industries?
You want to remove government oversight of water and electricity supply?
Sod that.
There’s a huge difference between oversight and provider.
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@lufins-dad said in It's 3 months since the election....:
The very thought of government run healthcare is antithetical to the idea of healthcare as a human right.
Depends what you mean by government run health care. I am not referring to the delivery of health care services. Rather I am referring to provision of universal health care insurance through a single payer. I believe the state has a major role in providing that to all citizens. In any case I doubt that we could arrive at any consensus. I make no false claims, I am a unrepentent socialist on this matter. Full stop.
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If the US had a single payer system, that system would have been administered by the Trump administration over the last four years. @Aqua-Letifer @Doctor-Phibes @jon-nyc I ask how comfortable you would have been with that?
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@horace said in It's 3 months since the election....:
@george-k said in It's 3 months since the election....:
@horace I see this every time I go for a walk:
But, I think we already had a "Front Yard Virtue Signaling Sign" Thread.
That may have been the one I saw. In all honesty I only glanced at it. Those things are so ridiculous, I don't feel any obligation to pay them much attention.
I walked by it again this morning. It's a variation on a theme, but not identical.
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@george-k said in It's 3 months since the election....:
@horace I see this every time I go for a walk:
But, I think we already had a "Front Yard Virtue Signaling Sign" Thread.
That night, God sent the angel of death to kill the firstborn sons of the Egyptians. God told Moses to order the Israelite families to sacrifice a lamb and smear the blood on the door of their houses. In this way the angel would know to 'pass over' the houses of the Israelites.