Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss
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The fact that Liz Cheney arguably stood up for what she believes is right regarding former President Trump really has nothing to do with what went on in Portland, right?
Or with the Democrat Party?
She's probably not particularly interested in saving the Democrats from what she sees as a hostile takeover.
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
The fact that Liz Cheney arguably stood up for what she believes is right regarding former President Trump really has nothing to do with what went on in Portland, right?
Yes...and no.
My point is that of selective outrage. The destruction of Portland is, arguably, worse than what happened in DC - other than from an ideological perspective ("Attack on democracy and all that stuff).
If she's concerned about peoples' attacks on democracy and federal property, I must have missed her outrage last summer.
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It would be all too easy to make the same arguments regarding people on the other side.
I'm not sure I buy into the argument that if you don't condemn everything that's bad, you have no right to condemn anything that's bad.
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It would be all too easy to make the same arguments regarding people on the other side.
I'm not sure I buy into the argument that if you don't condemn everything that's bad, you have no right to condemn anything that's bad.
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
I'm not sure I buy into the argument that if you don't condemn everything that's bad, you have no right to condemn anything that's bad.
Fair enough.
But let's be more specific than "everything." I'm referring to Hillary Clinton's comments about the Trump victory. Cheney (whom I've always liked, as I think I said earlier) condemns Trump for the claim of illegitimacy. I still don't hear anyone condemning her comments, other than the RWEC.
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I should also point out that when one does condemn everything, I have found that there is a tendency to be branded as a nihilist, and accused of supporting nothing, as though that is somehow unthinkable.
So, on the one hand, if one doesn't condemn everything, one has no right to condemn anything. On the other, if one condemns everything one is accused of believing in nothing.
Bollocks, I say!
I would of course be happy to condemn Hillary Clinton for any manner of things. Allowing that jackass Donald Trump to be elected President by buying the Democrat nomination is fairly high on the list.
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@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
And Xenon said Trump had faded away...
Fading away if Google searches for him are any indicator
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&q=Trump
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@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
And Xenon said Trump had faded away...
Fading away if Google searches for him are any indicator
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&q=Trump
@xenon said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
And Xenon said Trump had faded away...
Fading away if Google searches for him are any indicator
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&q=Trump
Google would never manipulate the algorithms would they?
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@xenon said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
And Xenon said Trump had faded away...
Fading away if Google searches for him are any indicator
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&q=Trump
Google would never manipulate the algorithms would they?
@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Google would never manipulate the algorithms would they?
Google authors the algorithm. Saying Google “manupulates” the algorithm is like saying Hemingway “manipulates” the Old Man and the Sea.
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Sen. Liz Cheney’s op-ed on the GOP and Trump:
Liz Cheney: The GOP Is At A Turning Point. History Is Watching Us.
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2021/05/05/liz-cheney-the-gop-is-at-a-turning-point-history-is-watching-us/@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Liz Cheney: The GOP Is At A Turning Point. History Is Watching Us.
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2021/05/05/liz-cheney-the-gop-is-at-a-turning-point-history-is-watching-us/Peggy Noonan backs Liz Cheney, calling the House GOP the “House of Cowards”:
https://peggynoonan.com/liz-cheney-confronts-a-house-of-cowards/
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There is a "cult of personality" in the DPRK, where everyone praises the Premier Kim and his family.
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
In the DPRK, most of the people are not true believers however. In the US, most of the people are.
Not sure which is worse.
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Liz Cheney: The GOP Is At A Turning Point. History Is Watching Us.
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2021/05/05/liz-cheney-the-gop-is-at-a-turning-point-history-is-watching-us/Peggy Noonan backs Liz Cheney, calling the House GOP the “House of Cowards”:
https://peggynoonan.com/liz-cheney-confronts-a-house-of-cowards/
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Liz Cheney: The GOP Is At A Turning Point. History Is Watching Us.
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2021/05/05/liz-cheney-the-gop-is-at-a-turning-point-history-is-watching-us/Peggy Noonan backs Liz Cheney, calling the House GOP the “House of Cowards”:
https://peggynoonan.com/liz-cheney-confronts-a-house-of-cowards/
I wouldn't piss on Peggy, if she was on fire.
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There is a "cult of personality" in the DPRK, where everyone praises the Premier Kim and his family.
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
In the DPRK, most of the people are not true believers however. In the US, most of the people are.
Not sure which is worse.
@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
There is a "cult of personality" in the DPRK, where everyone praises the Premier Kim and his family.
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
In the DPRK, most of the people are not true believers however. In the US, most of the people are.
Not sure which is worse.
Everybody in the US loves Trump. It's very sad, I feel sorry for Americans.
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Ohio GOP censures ten House GOP Representatives who voted to impeach Trump over the Jan.6, 2021 incident, and also asks Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio to resign:
https://www.statenews.org/post/ohio-congressman-censured-ohio-republican-party
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There is a "cult of personality" in the DPRK, where everyone praises the Premier Kim and his family.
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
In the DPRK, most of the people are not true believers however. In the US, most of the people are.
Not sure which is worse.
@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
There is a "cult of personality" in the DPRK, where everyone praises the Premier Kim and his family.
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
In the DPRK, most of the people are not true believers however. In the US, most of the people are.
Not sure which is worse.
Kim and Don should do a cooking show together, now that the Two Fat Ladies are no more. They could ride around the countryside on a motorbike and side-car, visiting old country houses. I'd certainly pay to watch it.
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There is a "cult of personality" in the DPRK, where everyone praises the Premier Kim and his family.
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
In the DPRK, most of the people are not true believers however. In the US, most of the people are.
Not sure which is worse.
@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
Where were you from 2008 to 2016?
Link to video
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
Where were you from 2008 to 2016?
Link to video@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
Where were you from 2008 to 2016?
Link to videoAny cult of personality is bad. When a person becomes bigger than the policy's or issues, (almost) all the time, the result is not good.
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@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
In the US, many people have a "cult of personality" and praises President Trump and his family.
Where were you from 2008 to 2016?
Link to video -
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This one is happening in @Mik’s backyard.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/24/jane-timken-trump-senate-490504
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During Jane Timken’s tenure as Ohio’s GOP chair, Donald Trump won the one-time bellwether state by a whopping 8 percentage points. She put 150,000 miles on her car driving to the state’s 88 counties as a surrogate for the president. And she raised a total of $5 million for his two campaigns.But that sterling record of MAGA support might not be enough to guarantee the former president’s support in her bid for the GOP Senate nomination. Timken’s sin? In her capacity as state party chair, she failed to immediately condemn home-state Republican congressman, Anthony Gonzalez, for voting to impeach Trump in response to the U.S. Capitol riot on Jan. 6.
At the time, Timken said the congressman had a “rational reason why he voted that way. I think he’s an effective legislator, and he’s a very good person.”
That statement is proving costly. In a Republican Party where a candidate’s viability is measured in degrees of fealty to the former president, the crowded field of primary opponents is insisting Timken has failed a key test.
Days after entering the Senate race in February, Timken changed gears and called on Gonzalez to resign. But despite that — and despite calling both Trump impeachments a “sham” — Timken’s foes and two dozen conservative activists penned an open letter this weekend to the state Republican Party that called on primary voters to reject her candidacy.
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I thought Trump had faded away?
