Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss
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@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Well, considering that in the last 4 years, the Republic Party has:
lost the President office
lost the House office
lost the Senate office,
decreased the number of Republic state governors
decreased the number of majority Republic state legislaturesI wonder if the DNC is tired of winning.
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@jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Well, considering that in the last 4 years, the Republic Party has:
lost the President office
lost the House office
lost the Senate office,
decreased the number of Republic state governors
decreased the number of majority Republic state legislaturesI wonder if the DNC is tired of winning.
Substitute Obama and it is identical to a tee.
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Nope. He won re-election handily.
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https://www.vox.com/22321215/trump-rnc-cease-and-desist-fundraising-feud-purge
Cease-and-desist letters aside, Trump also issued a public statement telling people not to donate to the GOP, but to donate to Trump’s PAC instead.
Still, the GOP continues to leverage Trump’s name and likeness to raise funds.
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How Ohio’s GOP primary candidates for an open Senate seat compete for Trump’s endorsement:
h/t wtg:
It was a scene right out of "The Apprentice."
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Donald Trump was headlining a fundraiser on Wednesday night at his golf club in West Palm Beach, Fla. But before the dinner began, the former president had some business to take care of: He summoned four Republican Senate candidates vying for Ohio’s open Senate seat for a backroom meeting.
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The contenders — former state Treasurer Josh Mandel, former state GOP Chair Jane Timken, technology company executive Bernie Moreno and investment banker Mike Gibbons — had flown down to attend the fundraiser to benefit a Trump-endorsed Ohio candidate looking to oust one of the 10 House Republicans who backed his impeachment. As the candidates mingled during a pre-dinner cocktail reception, one of the president's aides signaled to them that Trump wanted to huddle with them in a room just off the lobby.
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What ensued was a 15-minute backroom backbiting session reminiscent of Trump’s reality TV show. Mandel said he was “crushing” Timken in polling. Timken touted her support on the ground thanks to her time as state party chair. Gibbons mentioned how he’d helped Trump’s campaign financially. Moreno noted that his daughter had worked on Trump’s 2020 campaign.
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The scene illustrated what has become a central dynamic in the nascent 2022 race. In virtually every Republican primary, candidates are jockeying, auditioning and fighting for the former president’s backing. Trump has received overtures from a multitude of candidates desperate for his endorsement, something that top Republicans say gives him all-encompassing power to make-or-break the outcome of primaries.
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And the former president, as was so often the case during his presidency, has seemed to relish pitting people against one another.https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/25/trump-ohio-candidates-478059
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GOP brings leaders, donors to [Trump’s] backyard
“... the GOP is bringing hundreds of donors and several future presidential prospects to the former president’s doorstep in south Florida. While a handful of Republican leaders hope to move past Trump’s divisive leadership, the location of the invitation-only gathering suggests that the party, at least for now, is not ready to replace Trump as its undisputed leader and chief fundraiser.
Trump himself will headline the closed-door donor retreat, which is designed to raise millions of dollars for the GOP’s political arm while giving donors exclusive access to the party’s evolving group of 2024 prospects and congressional leaders. The weekend event will play out in an oceanfront luxury hotel just four miles from Trump’s Florida estate, where allies of the former president will simultaneously be holding their own fundraising events.”
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Trump slashes at McConnell as he reiterates election falsehoods at Republican event
... Donald Trump called Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell a “dumb son of a bitch” as he used a Saturday night speech to Republicans to blame him for not helping overturn the 2020 election and reiterated false assertions that he won the November contest.
Trump, speaking to a Republican National Committee gathering at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., excoriated a number of Republicans even as he publicly called for party unity — focusing on those who voted to convict him in impeachment proceedings. But he saved his sharpest vitriol for the Kentucky Republican.
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Trump spent much of the speech, with many senators in the room, lashing into his former ally in personal terms, often to cheers from the party’s top donors. ... -
@jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Nope. He won re-election handily.
So did Trump.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Nope. He won re-election handily.
So did Trump.
Trump lost his reelection bid by a landslide.
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Nope. He won re-election handily.
So did Trump.
Trump lost his reelection bid by a landslide.
Yes, after all the illegal votes were counted.
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
... Donald Trump called Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell a “dumb son of a bitch” as he used a Saturday night speech to Republicans to blame him for not helping overturn the 2020 election and reiterated false assertions that he won the November contest.
Trump, speaking to a Republican National Committee gathering at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., excoriated a number of Republicans even as he publicly called for party unity — focusing on those who voted to convict him in impeachment proceedings. But he saved his sharpest vitriol for the Kentucky Republican.
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Trump spent much of the speech, with many senators in the room, lashing into his former ally in personal terms, often to cheers from the party’s top donors. ...I was read where he did something similar (but not in as bad a terms) to VP Pence.
The downside for the Republics is that they may elect someone in the 2024 primary who will have difficulty in winning in the general election. There are 30-40% on each side who will vote for "their" party regardless. It is the 20-30% in the middle who have to be convinced. In 2016, the majority of those people were convinced the President Trump was a better alternative to Secretary Clinton.
in 2020, those same people were convinced the President Trump was not the better alternative.
Running President Trump again or a President Trump clone in 2024 will, I believe, end in the same result as 2020.
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@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
There are 30-40% on each side who will vote for "their" party regardless.
By 2024 nobody will vote for Joe Biden. There are 3 reasons why not.
- He will be in jail
- He will have gone to his reward
- He will have lost the tiny bit of cognitive ability that remains
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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/13/michael-wood-texas-gop-481024
“Wood is campaigning on an explicitly anti-Trump platform as he competes with 22 other candidates in a special election to fill the seat of the late Rep. Ron Wright (R-Texas), who represented a rapidly diversifying district in the Dallas-Fort Worth suburbs. Wood’s risky strategy centers on a belief there is a healthy slice of the GOP ready to move on from Trump after Jan. 6 — a proposition that will be tested at the ballot box next month”
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Had to dig for that one, didn't ya?
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Trump says the GOP needs new leadership, that McConnell has not done a great job.
When asked to comment, McConnell says they should look forward to the future, not the past. Sounds to me McConnell wants to leave Trump in the past.
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump says the GOP needs new leadership, that McConnell has not done a great job.
When asked to comment, McConnell says they should look forward to the future, not the past. Sounds to me McConnell wants to leave Trump in the past.
89th (or was it Xenon) was saying the other day that Trump had faded from the national stage. I repkued that I didn't think so.
Thank you for proving my point...
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Bush: ‘Anglo-Saxon’ ideals show pro-Trump Republicans ‘want to be extinct’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/01/george-w-bush-anglo-saxon-donald-trump-republicans-texas-congressional-electionIn an interview released on Friday by the Dispatch, an anti-Trump conservative podcast, [G.W. Bush] was asked about recent moves by pro-Trump extremists to form a congressional caucus promoting “Anglo-Saxon traditions”.
“To me that basically says that we want to be extinct,” he said.
If such trends continued, Bush said, in three to five years “there’s not going to be a party. ...
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Bush: ‘Anglo-Saxon’ ideals show pro-Trump Republicans ‘want to be extinct’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/01/george-w-bush-anglo-saxon-donald-trump-republicans-texas-congressional-electionIn an interview released on Friday by the Dispatch, an anti-Trump conservative podcast, [G.W. Bush] was asked about recent moves by pro-Trump extremists to form a congressional caucus promoting “Anglo-Saxon traditions”.
“To me that basically says that we want to be extinct,” he said.
If such trends continued, Bush said, in three to five years “there’s not going to be a party. ...
Certainly, white identity politics will kill conservatism as a politically viable set of ideas, to the extent that conservatism can be successfully associated with it by the left. Not that I have a clear idea of what "anglo saxon traditions" is supposed to mean, but I know exactly how it sounds and how the left would message against it.
Education is extremely important.
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@horace said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Certainly, white identity politics will kill conservatism as a politically viable set of ideas, to the extent that conservatism can be successfully associated with it by the left. Not that I have a clear idea of what "anglo saxon traditions" is supposed to mean, but I know exactly how it sounds and how the left would message against it.
Indeed, even Reps. Greene and Gosar have since been trying distance themselves from it. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gop-reps-greene-gosar-try-distance-anglo-saxon-traditions-document-n1264437
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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/02/lin-wood-south-carolina-race-485189
Pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood brings “surprisingly strong” challenge to South Carolina’s state GOP chair, that despite Trump already endorsed the incumbent state party chairperson.
