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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

    Trump can certainly hold a grudge.

    Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.

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    #184

    @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

    Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.

    Well, that and his ego.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Trump wants to depose McConnell, but the Senate GOP appears unwilling to go along.

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-looks-for-challenger-to-depose-mitch-mcconnell-as-split-widens-11632060002
      …
      Mr. Trump has spoken recently with senators and allies about trying to depose Mr. McConnell and whether any Republicans are interested in mounting a challenge, according to people familiar with the conversations. There is little appetite among Senate Republicans for such a plan, lawmakers and aides said, but the discussions risk driving a wedge deeper between the most influential figure in the Republican Party and its highest-ranking member in elected office.
      …

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        #186

        https://www.newsweek.com/trump-gets-58-support-republicans-pence-13-desantis-9-2024-primary-poll-1630980

        Trump Gets 58% Support of Republicans, Pence 13%, DeSantis 9% in 2024 Primary Poll

        Marco Rubio and Nikki Haley tied for fourth place at three percent each.

        But if Trump decides not to run, then Pence and DeSantis would move up to the first and second places, Ted Cruz would barge into the third place.

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          Larry
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          #187

          Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....

          Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.

          If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.

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            #188

            https://www.newsweek.com/maricopa-republicans-call-arizona-gop-chair-kelli-ward-resign-over-election-lies-1632701

            Maricopa Republicans Call on Arizona GOP Chair Kelli Ward to Resign Over Election 'Lies'

            After the Cyber Ninja “audit” found that Biden has won the election with an even larger margin than the certified results …

            Several Maricopa County Republican leaders have called on Arizona's GOP Chair Kelli Ward to resign, slamming her for promoting election "lies" …
            … Maricopa County Supervisor Clint Hickman, a Republican, urged Arizona's GOP Governor Doug Ducey as well as Treasurer Kimberly Yee to push Ward to resign. Ward was a staunch supporter of the audit and continues to question the results of the election despite Cyber Ninjas' findings. …

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            • LarryL Larry

              Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....

              Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.

              If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.

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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #189

              @larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....

              Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.

              If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.

              Still refusing, isn't he?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                https://www.boltonsuperpac.com/poll_092921.php

                John Bolton’s SuperPAC released poll results showing Trump tied with DeSantis in popularity among Republicans for 2024.

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                  Jolly
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                  #191

                  Still evading.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-urges-republicans-sit-coming-214714254.html

                    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-election-2020-biden_n_61674e95e4b028316c91016d

                    “If we don’t solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020...Republicans will not be voting in ’22 or ’24,” Trump said in a statement on Wednesday. “It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do.”

                    If the Republicans were to abstain from voting in 2022 and 2024 because of what they perceive to be “fraud” in the 2020 election, are the rest of the electorate going to miss them?

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                    • LarryL Larry

                      Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....

                      Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.

                      If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.

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                      @larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....

                      Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.

                      If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.

                      FYI

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #194

                        https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-quarter-republicans-still-think-trump-likely-reinstated-2021-poll-1639643

                        Nearly Quarter of Republicans Still Think Trump 'Likely' to Be Reinstated in 2021: Poll
                        …
                        Even though the U.S. Constitution doesn't provide a mechanism for the "reinstatement" of a president who lost an election, 22 percent of Republican voters still think Trump will "likely" be reinstated before the end of the year, according to a new Economist/YouGov poll.
                        .
                        Of those, 11 percent say it's "very likely" Trump will be reinstated and 11 percent say it's "somewhat likely." The number of Republican voters who believe that about Trump was far greater than Democratic voters—12 percent—and even slightly greater than the 19 percent of Trump voters.
                        …

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                          I dunno about reinstated, but he might run and win again.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            Ax will be sooo happy!

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Axtremus
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                              https://www.axios.com/bill-cassidy-trump-2024-46df97a8-e48e-49d1-b037-9e6863ef7471.html

                              Bill Cassidy, Senate Republican from Louisiana, openly doubts that Trump could win in 2024, recounts Trump's losing records, and says he will not vote for Trump in 2024.

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                                #198

                                Jolly, a resident of Louisiana, has some doubts as to whether Dr. Cassidy could win reelection.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....

                                  Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.

                                  If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.

                                  Still refusing, isn't he?

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                                  @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  @larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....

                                  Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.

                                  If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.

                                  Still refusing, isn't he?

                                  Some more.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gops-short-term-sugar-high-in-donald-trump-wont-last-georgias-republican-lt-gov-predicts
                                    — — — —
                                    MANCHESTER, N.H. - Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan says he’s getting "very little push back" from fellow Republicans over his burgeoning effort to reboot what he hopes will be a post-Donald Trump GOP.

                                    Duncan spotlights that other Republicans have quietly come up to him and thanked him for "doing the right thing" and tell him "this means a lot for this country, this means a lot for this party."

                                    Georgia’s lieutenant governor made his comments in a national exclusive interview with Fox News and during an address to an audience at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics on Tuesday, where Duncan kicked off the inaugural event to sell "GOP 2.0," the idea behind his new book and his evolving push to fix a Republican Party that he says has been damaged by former President Trump.
                                    …
                                    — — — —
                                    Of course that‘s in New Hampshire; may not work out the same way had he said that in the deep South.

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                                      @larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....
                                      Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.
                                      If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.

                                      Ad infinitum.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gops-short-term-sugar-high-in-donald-trump-wont-last-georgias-republican-lt-gov-predicts
                                        — — — —
                                        MANCHESTER, N.H. - Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan says he’s getting "very little push back" from fellow Republicans over his burgeoning effort to reboot what he hopes will be a post-Donald Trump GOP.

                                        Duncan spotlights that other Republicans have quietly come up to him and thanked him for "doing the right thing" and tell him "this means a lot for this country, this means a lot for this party."

                                        Georgia’s lieutenant governor made his comments in a national exclusive interview with Fox News and during an address to an audience at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics on Tuesday, where Duncan kicked off the inaugural event to sell "GOP 2.0," the idea behind his new book and his evolving push to fix a Republican Party that he says has been damaged by former President Trump.
                                        …
                                        — — — —
                                        Of course that‘s in New Hampshire; may not work out the same way had he said that in the deep South.

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                                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gops-short-term-sugar-high-in-donald-trump-wont-last-georgias-republican-lt-gov-predicts
                                        — — — —
                                        MANCHESTER, N.H. - Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan says he’s getting "very little push back" from fellow Republicans over his burgeoning effort to reboot what he hopes will be a post-Donald Trump GOP.

                                        Duncan spotlights that other Republicans have quietly come up to him and thanked him for "doing the right thing" and tell him "this means a lot for this country, this means a lot for this party."

                                        Georgia’s lieutenant governor made his comments in a national exclusive interview with Fox News and during an address to an audience at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics on Tuesday, where Duncan kicked off the inaugural event to sell "GOP 2.0," the idea behind his new book and his evolving push to fix a Republican Party that he says has been damaged by former President Trump.
                                        …
                                        — — — —
                                        Of course that‘s in New Hampshire; may not work out the same way had he said that in the deep South.

                                        Why would anything be any different in New Hampshire than in the "deep South"?

                                        Have you ever been in the South?

                                        Isn't Georgia in the South?

                                        Why are you such a bigot?

                                        Are you proud of Joe Biden?

                                        We're you dropped on your head as a child, or is it just genetic?

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                                          Another Trump-centric GOP primary, this time in Ohio.

                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/23/jd-vance-ohio-senate-trump-comments-516865

                                          Club for Growth Action and USA Freedom Fund, both of which back former state Treasurer Josh Mandel, are each spending $470,000 to make Republican primary voters aware of Vance’s harsh rhetoric toward the former president. ...

                                          Vance has sought to dramatically reinvent himself as all in for Trump while embracing a Republican message of economic populism — and allies of Mandel are on the offense to prevent Vance from closing the gap in the race to replace retiring GOP Sen. Rob Portman.
                                          ...
                                          I’m a Never Trump guy,” Vance said in an interview with Charlie Rose in 2016, a clip used in both the new ads. “I never liked him.”
                                          Both ads also feature a screenshot of a Vance tweet from October 2016. “My god what an idiot,” he wrote, referring to Trump.
                                          Vance expressed a similar sentiment in other interviews and since-deleted tweets from that time, including publicly mulling the idea of supporting Hillary Clinton, calling Trump “noxious” and “reprehensible.”
                                          ...

                                          Hey @Mik, how do you like them candidates in the GOP senate primary this go round?

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