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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/us/politics/biden-trump-intelligence-briefings.html

    “WASHINGTON — President Biden said on Friday that he would bar his predecessor, Donald J. Trump, from receiving intelligence briefings traditionally given to former presidents, saying that Mr. Trump could not be trusted because of his “erratic behavior” even before the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

    The move was the first time that a former president had been cut out of the briefings, which are provided partly as a courtesy and partly for the moments when a sitting president reaches out for advice. Currently, the briefings are offered on a regular basis to Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama.
    ...”

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    “WASHINGTON — President Biden said on Friday that he would bar his predecessor, Donald J. Trump, from receiving intelligence briefings traditionally given to former presidents, saying that Mr. Trump could not be trusted because of his “erratic behavior” even before the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

    The importance of saying that, to appeal to TDS sufferers, is greater than the alleged importance of whether Trump receives these allegedly super important super secret intelligence breifings.

    TDS will be eternal. Hatred is eternal. It's very sad, I feel sorry for TDS sufferers. I pray for them.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Catseye3
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      No, Biden did the right thing. Trump was never competent to receive sensitive material. His being privy to it was one of my biggest worries during his term.

      And yes, Jon's recollection is correct. His first week in office he spurned the, what was it called, President's Daily Briefing -- which should have told you volumes about what to expect.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        Horace
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        #12

        "Jon is correct" is a tautology, and doesn't need saying. The other thing that didn't need saying is that Trump will not be included in ceremonial, courtesy "intelligence briefings", the importance of which I'll just bet are almost nill.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @mik said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

          Pretty much every action Biden has taken demonstrates that his inaugural address focusing on unity was an enormous crock of shit.

          I don't see as a unity issue at all. I see it as a security issue, especially right now as you can be rest assured there both domestic and international items contained in those briefings that Trump not only does not have a need to know, but should not be offered the opportunity or courtesy to know.

          AxtremusA Away
          AxtremusA Away
          Axtremus
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          @renauda said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

          I see it as a security issue,

          +1

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @renauda said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

            I see it as a security issue,

            +1

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            @axtremus said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

            @renauda said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

            I see it as a security issue,

            +1

            I think that anybody who would describe Trump as a mere "security issue" rather than an "existential security issue" might have questionable morals, ethics, and virtue. I feel very sorry for them and I pray for them.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @axtremus said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

              @renauda said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

              I see it as a security issue,

              +1

              I think that anybody who would describe Trump as a mere "security issue" rather than an "existential security issue" might have questionable morals, ethics, and virtue. I feel very sorry for them and I pray for them.

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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #15

              @horace

              Talking to yourself, eh?

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @horace

                Talking to yourself, eh?

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                @renauda said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

                @horace

                Talking to yourself, eh?

                I'm not going to apologize for considering Trump to be an existential risk.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
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                  #17

                  I was referring to the prayer part.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    I was referring to the prayer part.

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                    @renauda said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

                    I was referring to the prayer part.

                    Yes, I pray to myself. I don't seem to answer them very well though.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Trump didn't invite Biden to security briefings either, presumably because he didn't think he was actually President elect, but a big old cheater nasty man.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        Trump didn't invite Biden to security briefings either, presumably because he didn't think he was actually President elect, but a big old cheater nasty man.

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                        #20

                        @doctor-phibes said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

                        Trump didn't invite Biden to security briefings either,

                        I think it's pretty fair to say that Trump's entire rhetoric, everything he said about unifying the country in the past 4 years, has also been a giant crock of shit.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          George K
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                          A question asked on the REWC, and I think it's valid: Why should any former president receive intelligence briefings? S/he's not in a position of power, but just a (well-perked) private citizen.

                          Have to agree. Once you're out of government, you're, well, out of government.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            #22

                            By the way, the White House clarified that they have made no such decision, and will leave his briefing up to the intelligence services.

                            My guess is he'll get one that is somewhat lite. If he even wants it.

                            You were warned.

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                            • George KG George K

                              A question asked on the REWC, and I think it's valid: Why should any former president receive intelligence briefings? S/he's not in a position of power, but just a (well-perked) private citizen.

                              Have to agree. Once you're out of government, you're, well, out of government.

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                              @george-k said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

                              Why should any former president receive intelligence briefings?

                              Because they feed the former presidents bad information that is then passed on to whichever country is paying the bills.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                By the way, the White House clarified that they have made no such decision, and will leave his briefing up to the intelligence services.

                                My guess is he'll get one that is somewhat lite. If he even wants it.

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                                Catseye3
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                                #24

                                @jon-nyc said in No Intelligence Briefing for Trump:

                                By the way, the White House clarified that they have made no such decision, and will leave his briefing up to the intelligence services.
                                My guess is he'll get one that is somewhat lite. If he even wants it.

                                My own private opinion is that, with the contrivance of Langley and the Joint Chiefs and State and the other alphabets, -- and possibly other heads of state -- that is all he got when he was in office. I think for his four years, decisions affecting our global security rested outside the presidency. I think the spooks in charge just hunkered down for the duration and did what was necessary.

                                Plus he would have been absurdly easy to fool.

                                I believe this because I can't imagine them doing anything else. This is my own idea and not gotten from anywhere beyond my fevered brain.

                                And of course, I could be entirely full of kaka.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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