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  • A Aqua Letifer
    22 Apr 2020, 19:33

    @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

    "real people dying, maybe someone you love, maybe you", actually stop being convincing?

    I don't know what you mean by that. "Convincing" in terms of how helpful it is making policy, or "convincing" in terms of you actually don't care?

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    Horace
    wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 20:05 last edited by Horace
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    @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

    @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

    "real people dying, maybe someone you love, maybe you", actually stop being convincing?

    I don't know what you mean by that. "Convincing" in terms of how helpful it is making policy, or "convincing" in terms of you actually don't care?

    There is only one side of this debate that is even potentially completely self-interested, and that's the quarantine-indefinitely crowd. At least the open-everything-back-up crowd are de facto throwing themselves into the risk pool.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Loki
      wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 20:06 last edited by
      #22

      Really interesting points being made which I don’t want to interrupt except to say I’m surprised we haven’t started coming up with trolley problem examples.

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      • H Horace
        22 Apr 2020, 20:05

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

        @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

        "real people dying, maybe someone you love, maybe you", actually stop being convincing?

        I don't know what you mean by that. "Convincing" in terms of how helpful it is making policy, or "convincing" in terms of you actually don't care?

        There is only one side of this debate that is even potentially completely self-interested, and that's the quarantine-indefinitely crowd. At least the open-everything-back-up crowd are de facto throwing themselves into the risk pool.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 22:16 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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        @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

        @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

        "real people dying, maybe someone you love, maybe you", actually stop being convincing?

        I don't know what you mean by that. "Convincing" in terms of how helpful it is making policy, or "convincing" in terms of you actually don't care?

        There is only one side of this debate that is even potentially completely self-interested, and that's the quarantine-indefinitely crowd. At least the open-everything-back-up crowd are de facto throwing themselves into the risk pool.

        They're not, though. They comfort themselves with the delusion that they're exempt from dying. I've been assured of this by "friends" and several family members who are in the Open Everything Now camp. Like the guy who died in Ohio, they've assured me that they're going to be fine.

        Please love yourself.

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        • A Aqua Letifer
          22 Apr 2020, 22:16

          @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

          @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

          "real people dying, maybe someone you love, maybe you", actually stop being convincing?

          I don't know what you mean by that. "Convincing" in terms of how helpful it is making policy, or "convincing" in terms of you actually don't care?

          There is only one side of this debate that is even potentially completely self-interested, and that's the quarantine-indefinitely crowd. At least the open-everything-back-up crowd are de facto throwing themselves into the risk pool.

          They're not, though. They comfort themselves with the delusion that they're exempt from dying. I've been assured of this by "friends" and several family members who are in the Open Everything Now camp. Like the guy who died in Ohio, they've assured me that they're going to be fine.

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          Copper
          wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 22:51 last edited by
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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

          Like the guy who died in Ohio, they've assured me that they're going to be fine.

          Unlike the guy in Ohio, they have a better chance of being just fine.

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          • C Copper
            22 Apr 2020, 22:51

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

            Like the guy who died in Ohio, they've assured me that they're going to be fine.

            Unlike the guy in Ohio, they have a better chance of being just fine.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 22:53 last edited by
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            @Copper said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

            Like the guy who died in Ohio, they've assured me that they're going to be fine.

            Unlike the guy in Ohio, they have a better chance of being just fine.

            That's right. This is a conspiracy.

            Please love yourself.

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              Copper
              wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 22:57 last edited by
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              For what purpose?

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 22:58 last edited by
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                You tell me. I can't pretend to know why people don't take a pandemic seriously.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 23:05 last edited by
                  #28

                  Has someone done that?

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 23:07 last edited by
                    #29

                    Some people don't take anything seriously. Clowns, for example. They're constantly fucking jumping around with the big horns, and the stupid shoes and the painted on smile that disguises how they really look.

                    And then suddenly, it's 'we all float down here', and you're left wondering what the fucking joke was.

                    I was only joking

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 23:08 last edited by
                      #30

                      😄

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 23 Apr 2020, 01:55 last edited by
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                        Just an observation...I'll bet you a wooden nickel, that no matter how hard George's hospital tried, over the years they had a few nosocomial infections originating in OR.

                        Now, this is in a pretty darn clean area, where professional people, trained in infection control procedures, still manage to either make a tiny mistake, or something else breaches a sterile field..

                        So...cost/benefit. And yes, some of us may not make it. It's all a matter of keeping as many people safe as possible, while still trying to keep a roof over people's heads and food on their tables. And even if we do things as close to perfect as possible, there will still be infected people.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 9 Jul 2020, 02:44 last edited by
                          #32

                          https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/07/08/stop-getting-tested-ohio-lawmaker-encourages-residents-stop-best-practice-fighting-covid-19/5397318002/

                          'STOP GETTING TESTED!' Ohio lawmaker encourages residents to stop best practice in fighting COVID-19

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 9 Jul 2020, 11:56 last edited by
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                            Yeah, my rep is doing the same thing and has been trying to ride the wave for months. I plan to vote for anyone but him next time.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus
                              9 Jul 2020, 02:44

                              https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/07/08/stop-getting-tested-ohio-lawmaker-encourages-residents-stop-best-practice-fighting-covid-19/5397318002/

                              'STOP GETTING TESTED!' Ohio lawmaker encourages residents to stop best practice in fighting COVID-19

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 9 Jul 2020, 12:20 last edited by
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                              @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

                              https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/07/08/stop-getting-tested-ohio-lawmaker-encourages-residents-stop-best-practice-fighting-covid-19/5397318002/

                              'STOP GETTING TESTED!' Ohio lawmaker encourages residents to stop best practice in fighting COVID-19

                              I guess I have spent enough time thinking about it but I really don’t understand why people get all caught up in their knickers about testing and masks. Mostly it looks very odd to me.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                9 Jul 2020, 02:44

                                https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/07/08/stop-getting-tested-ohio-lawmaker-encourages-residents-stop-best-practice-fighting-covid-19/5397318002/

                                'STOP GETTING TESTED!' Ohio lawmaker encourages residents to stop best practice in fighting COVID-19

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 9 Jul 2020, 14:12 last edited by
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                                @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

                                https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/07/08/stop-getting-tested-ohio-lawmaker-encourages-residents-stop-best-practice-fighting-covid-19/5397318002/

                                'STOP GETTING TESTED!' Ohio lawmaker encourages residents to stop best practice in fighting COVID-19

                                Even with the context all but eliminated, that is some of the craziest shit I've ever heard.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  9 Jul 2020, 14:12

                                  @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in Ohio...:

                                  https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/07/08/stop-getting-tested-ohio-lawmaker-encourages-residents-stop-best-practice-fighting-covid-19/5397318002/

                                  'STOP GETTING TESTED!' Ohio lawmaker encourages residents to stop best practice in fighting COVID-19

                                  Even with the context all but eliminated, that is some of the craziest shit I've ever heard.

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on 9 Jul 2020, 14:24 last edited by
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer He 's just obeying Trump's directive.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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