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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #5

    It’s on the front page of the Times.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/31/world/asia/myanmar-coup-aung-san-suu-kyi.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • MikM Mik

      Just read up on it. It got no airplay on the national news here at all. Seems quite serious, the military oligarchs do not want to let go.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #6

      @mik said in Myanmar Coup:

      Seems quite serious

      Indeed. What will the repercussions be in the region, if any?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        taiwan_girl
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        #7

        I dont think that it will have that big effect. The military has always been very very strong, even after they gave up power. The current constitution guarantee them at least 25% of the representatives in the Parliament.

        Ms.Aung San Suu Kyi was somewhat limited in what she could do.

        On a side note, the capital of Myanmar was moved to Naypyidaw, which is quite far from Yangoon. Other than the government, the city is pretty much a ghost town. I have hear that the former ruler of Myanmar moved the capital because a star seer told him.

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        • RainmanR Offline
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          Rainman
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          #8

          @taiwan_girl said in Myanmar Coup:

          former ruler of Myanmar moved the capital because a star seer told him.

          Yes, it's true. But, it was only a telephone call. Nice guy, glad I could help.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            This woman was leading an online exercise class oblivious to the coup starting behind her.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              Axtremus
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              #10

              Well it looks like she was having fun. If there has to be a coup at all, let those coups be the sort that leaves the regular people alone.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                This woman was leading an online exercise class oblivious to the coup starting behind her.

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #11

                @jon-nyc said in Myanmar Coup:

                This woman was leading an online exercise class oblivious to the coup starting behind her.

                Seems like an important documentation of history. I may have to rewatch it a couple times to learn as much as I can.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  #12

                  I was in Thailand in 2014 during the military coup, and the events before then.

                  The protest were quite interesting. It was almost like a big street party. Never felt any threatening at all. When the military finally took over, me as an “outsider” did not notice a whole lot of change.

                  Thailand has had some pretty violent coupes, so I’m glad this recent one was pretty good and non-violent

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #13

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                      #14

                      More than 60 protesters killed in Myanmar on 'day of shame for armed forces'
                      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics/more-than-60-protesters-killed-in-myanmar-on-day-of-shame-for-armed-forces-idUSKBN2BJ01O

                      Sixty killed in one day, it’s getting worse.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        More than 60 protesters killed in Myanmar on 'day of shame for armed forces'
                        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics/more-than-60-protesters-killed-in-myanmar-on-day-of-shame-for-armed-forces-idUSKBN2BJ01O

                        Sixty killed in one day, it’s getting worse.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        @axtremus said in Myanmar Coup:

                        More than 60 protesters killed in Myanmar on 'day of shame for armed forces'
                        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics/more-than-60-protesters-killed-in-myanmar-on-day-of-shame-for-armed-forces-idUSKBN2BJ01O

                        Sixty killed in one day, it’s getting worse.

                        Well, when only one side has weapons, what do you expect?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • AxtremusA Offline
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                          Axtremus
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                          #16

                          Death toll increased to over 90
                          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics-idUSKBN2BJ01O

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @axtremus said in Myanmar Coup:

                            More than 60 protesters killed in Myanmar on 'day of shame for armed forces'
                            https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics/more-than-60-protesters-killed-in-myanmar-on-day-of-shame-for-armed-forces-idUSKBN2BJ01O

                            Sixty killed in one day, it’s getting worse.

                            Well, when only one side has weapons, what do you expect?

                            RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
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                            @jolly said in Myanmar Coup:

                            @axtremus said in Myanmar Coup:

                            More than 60 protesters killed in Myanmar on 'day of shame for armed forces'
                            https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics/more-than-60-protesters-killed-in-myanmar-on-day-of-shame-for-armed-forces-idUSKBN2BJ01O

                            Sixty killed in one day, it’s getting worse.

                            Well, when only one side has weapons, what do you expect?

                            Expect the ones with guns to get even more in the near future:

                            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/03/26/russia-to-deepen-ties-with-myanmar-military-junta-top-defense-official-says-in-first-visit-after-coup-a73387

                            Elbows up!

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                            • AxtremusA Offline
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                              Axtremus
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                              Myanmar is on its own, keeps getting worse.
                              https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/04/no-one-saving-myanmar/618658/

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                              • RainmanR Offline
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                                Rainman
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                Man, that's so sad, and I mean that.
                                Where the hell is the U.N., let alone the U.S.?
                                Thanks for the link, Ax. Disturbing as it is to read about what is going on there.

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  Something tells me the inaction is linked to China.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Something tells me the inaction is linked to China.

                                    AxtremusA Offline
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                                    @mik said in Myanmar Coup:

                                    Something tells me the inaction is linked to China.

                                    From the article:

                                    Russia and China are veto-wielding members of the UN Security Council, and both would block any significant action—Moscow, as a longtime friend of Myanmar’s that supplies it with weapons and provides training to its military, and Beijing, as its huge neighbor that has maintained friendly relations with both civilian and military governments in the past. Still, Rudd, the former Australian prime minister, argued, UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres should use his power to convene the council to vote on a resolution regarding R2P. Russia would be difficult to convince, Rudd acknowledged, but he was less sure that China would be against it and suggested that it might abstain from a vote instead. “China does not want to be seen as protecting Burmese butchers,” he told me. “It is bad for China’s international reputation.”

                                    Rudd expects Russia to veto a UN Security Council resolution to go against the Myanmar military as Russia supplies the Myanmar military with weapons and military training. Rudd expects China to only abstain from voting.

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                                      Kincaid
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                                      #22

                                      I got to have an hour-long conversation with a fellow in Myanmar that works for the same conglomerate as me - this was back in October, maybe? We talked about how Myanmar was opening up and modernizing - he is in insurance. I need to reach out to him but was a bit nervous about putting any kind of spotlight on him...

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                                      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                        taiwan_girl
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                                        #23

                                        The foreign ministers of ASEAN met with the cup leader of Myanmar in Indonesia recently. Not sure that it really will mean anything however. A lot of words, but probably no action.

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                                        • RainmanR Offline
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                                          Rainman
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                                          #24

                                          It is tragic what happens in these 3rd world countries.
                                          I have a very good friend from Venezuela, his dad was a diplomat. I'll always wonder what happened to his family. Likely they went from being part of the elite to being part of the hunted.

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