Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death
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His initial reaction, before he realized how much doo doo he was in, was anything but unequivocal. I recall the words “love you” being spoken.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 18:51 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
His initial reaction, before he realized how much doo doo he was in, was anything but unequivocal. I recall the words “love you” being spoken.
Ok. So now that you've implied it, please cite where he said "love you" to the Capitol marauders.
See, my expectation is that you are only happy to imply it, while being unable to cite it.
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@jon-nyc said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@jon-nyc I’ll even go further, he would join the vermin if he thought they could win.
Winning is everything to lots of people, even if they don't realize it. Imagine spending weeks calling a politician a loser, and some non specific subset of his supporters nasty names, after the election was already lost.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 18:52 last edited byAnd some people’s political outlook is defined by all the little contests they’ve lost.
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wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 18:53 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
And some people’s political outlook is defined by all the little contests they’ve lost.
I don't even understand what that means. If it was intended as an insult, you should condescend more, so I can understand.
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wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 18:54 last edited by
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wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 18:56 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
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Yep he definitely went too hard on the election fraud thing. It is fair to interpret his words as being directed to the whole protest, not the marauders. Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
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@jon-nyc said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
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Yep he definitely went too hard on the election fraud thing. It is fair to interpret his words as being directed to the whole protest, not the marauders. Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 18:58 last edited by@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Yep he definitely went too hard on the election fraud thing.
What that should tell you is the opinion he actually has of some of his supporters.
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@jon-nyc said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
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Yep he definitely went too hard on the election fraud thing. It is fair to interpret his words as being directed to the whole protest, not the marauders. Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 18:59 last edited by@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
He also told them he loved them.
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@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
He also told them he loved them.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:03 last edited by Horace@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
He also told them he loved them.
You could read it that way, and many will. Many also read that he told white supremacists at the Charlottesville thing that they were very fine people. These interpretations happen. It's pretty easy to avoid being painted on the wrong side of those things, just be woke.
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@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
He also told them he loved them.
You could read it that way, and many will. Many also read that he told white supremacists at the Charlottesville thing that they were very fine people. These interpretations happen. It's pretty easy to avoid being painted on the wrong side of those things, just be woke.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:08 last edited byNope. It’s clear in Charlottesville he was talking to “both sides” of the confederate state issue, and alternative interpretations are disingenuous or ignorant.
It’s also clear who he was talking to on the 6th. But I’ll be charitable and put you in the ‘denial’ category rather than disingenuous or ignorant. (Though you were apparently ignorant about the video before I posted it)
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@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
He also told them he loved them.
You could read it that way, and many will. Many also read that he told white supremacists at the Charlottesville thing that they were very fine people. These interpretations happen. It's pretty easy to avoid being painted on the wrong side of those things, just be woke.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:09 last edited by@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
He also told them he loved them.
You could read it that way, and many will. Many also read that he toldwhite supremacists at the Charlottesville thing that they were very fine people.
Those are not the same thing. I don't actually know whether Trump is a racist or not, but I've certainly heard him pander to people's xenophobia. His early speeches about Mexican immigrants were extremely depressing.
Of course, you can choose to interpret what he says differently, and make excuses for his pandering. It's easy to avoid being painted as overly woke, and make excuses for the fact that he's a cunt.
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Nope. It’s clear in Charlottesville he was talking to “both sides” of the confederate state issue, and alternative interpretations are disingenuous or ignorant.
It’s also clear who he was talking to on the 6th. But I’ll be charitable and put you in the ‘denial’ category rather than disingenuous or ignorant. (Though you were apparently ignorant about the video before I posted it)
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:13 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Nope. It’s clear in Charlottesville he was talking to “both sides” of the confederate state issue, and alternative interpretations are disingenuous or ignorant.
It’s also clear who he was talking to on the 6th. But I’ll be charitable and put you in the ‘denial’ category rather than disingenuous or ignorant. (Though you were apparently ignorant about the video before I posted it)
Of course I hadn't seen the video, I don't follow politics. What is my denial of? That he was talking to Capitol marauders? Ok, maybe he was being charitable getting to their hearts by telling he loved them, while unequivocally telling them to stop and go home. At what point do you concede that he unequivocally told them to stop and go home, jon?
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wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:15 last edited by jon-nyc
He got unequivocal in the “hostage video” that he did next. I believe on the weekend. But that when cabinet members were mumbling the number 25.
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wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:18 last edited by
Nah, when I read magat vermin in the title, I just assume it's another bigoted attack by ol' Jon
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@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
He also told them he loved them.
You could read it that way, and many will. Many also read that he toldwhite supremacists at the Charlottesville thing that they were very fine people.
Those are not the same thing. I don't actually know whether Trump is a racist or not, but I've certainly heard him pander to people's xenophobia. His early speeches about Mexican immigrants were extremely depressing.
Of course, you can choose to interpret what he says differently, and make excuses for his pandering. It's easy to avoid being painted as overly woke, and make excuses for the fact that he's a cunt.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:18 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
He also told them he loved them.
You could read it that way, and many will. Many also read that he toldwhite supremacists at the Charlottesville thing that they were very fine people.
Those are not the same thing. I don't actually know whether Trump is a racist or not, but I've certainly heard him pander to people's xenophobia. His early speeches about Mexican immigrants were extremely depressing.
Of course, you can choose to interpret what he says differently, and make excuses for his pandering. It's easy to avoid being painted as overly woke, and make excuses for the fact that he's a cunt.
Politicians pander. I think most people know that. But I think the border issue, which every country deals with, was always an ignored one, before Trump came along, and I don't mind the direction it went. Open borders may be good, in fact I'm aware of some particularly savvy people who believe that, but I'm not entirely convinced of that. Neither is pretty much any other country. I'm sorry about the "rapists" rhetoric, it was too far.
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Nah, when I read magat vermin in the title, I just assume it's another bigoted attack by ol' Jon
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:20 last edited by@jolly said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Nah, when I read magat vermin in the title, I just assume it's another bigoted attack by ol' Jon
It’s like Antifa goons. Really not much daylight between them if you zoom out just a tad.
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wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:25 last edited by
Hey, I love Antifa goons. I don't love them being Antifa goons, but Jesus commands me to love everybody. Maybe Trump is a better Christian than I thought.
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@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
Whom he specifically condemned by specifically condemning their behavior.
He also told them he loved them.
You could read it that way, and many will. Many also read that he toldwhite supremacists at the Charlottesville thing that they were very fine people.
Those are not the same thing. I don't actually know whether Trump is a racist or not, but I've certainly heard him pander to people's xenophobia. His early speeches about Mexican immigrants were extremely depressing.
Of course, you can choose to interpret what he says differently, and make excuses for his pandering. It's easy to avoid being painted as overly woke, and make excuses for the fact that he's a cunt.
Politicians pander. I think most people know that. But I think the border issue, which every country deals with, was always an ignored one, before Trump came along, and I don't mind the direction it went. Open borders may be good, in fact I'm aware of some particularly savvy people who believe that, but I'm not entirely convinced of that. Neither is pretty much any other country. I'm sorry about the "rapists" rhetoric, it was too far.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:25 last edited by@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
I'm sorry about the "rapists" rhetoric, it was too far.
I was left in disbelief when I heard that. 4 1/2 years later and we're all used to this level of hyperbole.
Apparently, it doesn't matter what people say, just what they do. So calling foreigners rapists is fine, just like boasting to your stupid friends about grabbing women by the pussy is fine, as long as you don't actually do it.
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@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
I'm sorry about the "rapists" rhetoric, it was too far.
I was left in disbelief when I heard that. 4 1/2 years later and we're all used to this level of hyperbole.
Apparently, it doesn't matter what people say, just what they do. So calling foreigners rapists is fine, just like boasting to your stupid friends about grabbing women by the pussy is fine, as long as you don't actually do it.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:28 last edited by Horace@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
I'm sorry about the "rapists" rhetoric, it was too far.
I was left in disbelief when I heard that. 4 1/2 years later and we're all used to this level of hyperbole.
Apparently, it doesn't matter what people say, just what they do. So calling foreigners rapists is fine, just like boasting to your stupid friends about grabbing women by the pussy is fine, as long as you don't actually do it.
There's plenty of dishonest rhetoric to go around on both sides. White males and their privilege, white cops and their racism. You witnessed lots of destruction founded by those sorts of ideas in 2020 but didn't muster much outrage. Just realize we all have our weightings of whether our country is being destroyed, and not everybody who doesn't land in your same spot is evil.
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@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
I'm sorry about the "rapists" rhetoric, it was too far.
I was left in disbelief when I heard that. 4 1/2 years later and we're all used to this level of hyperbole.
Apparently, it doesn't matter what people say, just what they do. So calling foreigners rapists is fine, just like boasting to your stupid friends about grabbing women by the pussy is fine, as long as you don't actually do it.
There's plenty of dishonest rhetoric to go around on both sides. White males and their privilege, white cops and their racism. You witnessed lots of destruction founded by those sorts of ideas in 2020 but didn't muster much outrage. Just realize we all have our weightings of whether our country is being destroyed, and not everybody who doesn't land in your same spot is evil.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:29 last edited by@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
I'm sorry about the "rapists" rhetoric, it was too far.
I was left in disbelief when I heard that. 4 1/2 years later and we're all used to this level of hyperbole.
Apparently, it doesn't matter what people say, just what they do. So calling foreigners rapists is fine, just like boasting to your stupid friends about grabbing women by the pussy is fine, as long as you don't actually do it.
There's plenty of dishonest rhetoric to go around on both sides. White males and their privilege, white cops and their racism. You witnessed lots of destruction founded by those sorts of ideas in 2020 but didn't muster much outrage. Just realize we all have our weightings of whether our country is being destroyed, and not everybody who doesn't land in your same spot is evil.
Right back at you. You talk a lot about the evils of pop culture.
Donald Trump is/was part of pop culture. Just not the bit you despise so much.
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@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
I'm sorry about the "rapists" rhetoric, it was too far.
I was left in disbelief when I heard that. 4 1/2 years later and we're all used to this level of hyperbole.
Apparently, it doesn't matter what people say, just what they do. So calling foreigners rapists is fine, just like boasting to your stupid friends about grabbing women by the pussy is fine, as long as you don't actually do it.
There's plenty of dishonest rhetoric to go around on both sides. White males and their privilege, white cops and their racism. You witnessed lots of destruction founded by those sorts of ideas in 2020 but didn't muster much outrage. Just realize we all have our weightings of whether our country is being destroyed, and not everybody who doesn't land in your same spot is evil.
Right back at you. You talk a lot about the evils of pop culture.
Donald Trump is/was part of pop culture. Just not the bit you despise so much.
wrote on 29 Jan 2021, 19:32 last edited by Horace@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@doctor-phibes said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
@horace said in Video of Magat vermin trampling a woman to death:
I'm sorry about the "rapists" rhetoric, it was too far.
I was left in disbelief when I heard that. 4 1/2 years later and we're all used to this level of hyperbole.
Apparently, it doesn't matter what people say, just what they do. So calling foreigners rapists is fine, just like boasting to your stupid friends about grabbing women by the pussy is fine, as long as you don't actually do it.
There's plenty of dishonest rhetoric to go around on both sides. White males and their privilege, white cops and their racism. You witnessed lots of destruction founded by those sorts of ideas in 2020 but didn't muster much outrage. Just realize we all have our weightings of whether our country is being destroyed, and not everybody who doesn't land in your same spot is evil.
Right back at you. You talk a lot about the evils of pop culture.
Donald Trump is/was part of pop culture. Just not the bit you despise so much.
I talk about the ignorance of it and the predictability of it. Give them different ideas and they will change their tune, obviously.
Pop culture was united against Donald Trump, for any reasonable definition of pop culture. MSM, movies, television, big tech. Not completely united, but yes, the elites were mostly united against him.