No test, no entry
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wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 23:35 last edited by
HOORAY. Anti-Vaxers are welcome to their beliefs, they are not welcome to fuck up our economy by spreading Covid.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 03:42 last edited by
Common in Asia.
Thailand
Taiwan,
etcDoesn't matter if it is business, citizen, non citizen, etc. Two weeks in a state listed hotel or guest house. COVID tests at 3, 7, and 14 days.
Makes it a difficult pain, but also the reason that internally, things are pretty open.
Want to go to a bar/restaurant/disco/theater, etc. Go for it.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 05:43 last edited by
Good policy, should have been implemented 10 months ago.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 12:50 last edited by
@renauda said in No test, no entry:
Good policy, should have been implemented 10 months ago.
Didn't have the tests.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 12:53 last edited by
It’s too bad Biden didn’t say board a plane “in” the United States.
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@renauda said in No test, no entry:
Good policy, should have been implemented 10 months ago.
Didn't have the tests.
wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 15:48 last edited by Renauda@jolly said in No test, no entry:
@renauda said in No test, no entry:
Good policy, should have been implemented 10 months ago.
Didn't have the tests.
Well then once the tests became available. Nevertheless, the US could have required two week quarantine and restricted travel by all routes, not just land. Non restricted open air travel was an open back door. Idiots in this country certainly took advantage of that in defiance of our various levels of government begging people not to travel out of the country unless it was essential. Holidays in the sun or trips to Vegas are non essential in all cases.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 17:37 last edited by
That depends on your goal
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 19:06 last edited by
non essential.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 20:06 last edited by
How many covid deaths?
What is the goal?
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 20:33 last edited by
Why curtail anything, when we have an open Southern Border?
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 20:57 last edited by
@jolly said in No test, no entry:
Why curtail anything, when we have an open Southern Border?
Because the NY wave last year came from European travelers that got it from China. These sort of measure could potentially help drop the spread - and they're not that costly in aggregate.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 21:00 last edited by
@copper said in No test, no entry:
How many covid deaths?
What is the goal?
Look it up.
Figure it out yourself.
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@jolly said in No test, no entry:
Why curtail anything, when we have an open Southern Border?
Because the NY wave last year came from European travelers that got it from China. These sort of measure could potentially help drop the spread - and they're not that costly in aggregate.
wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 21:15 last edited by@xenon said in No test, no entry:
@jolly said in No test, no entry:
Why curtail anything, when we have an open Southern Border?
Because the NY wave last year came from European travelers that got it from China. These sort of measure could potentially help drop the spread - and they're not that costly in aggregate.
If I recall correctly, I believe ALOT of the Northeast wave was from Nile River cruises.
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@copper said in No test, no entry:
How many covid deaths?
What is the goal?
Look it up.
Figure it out yourself.
wrote on 22 Jan 2021, 22:21 last edited by@renauda said in No test, no entry:
@copper said in No test, no entry:
How many covid deaths?
What is the goal?
Look it up.
Figure it out yourself.
Well. how do you figure out who is an idiot and who is essential?
What is your standard? Before you arrive at a conclusion like that you must have a goal to measure the idiots and non-essentials.
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wrote on 23 Jan 2021, 00:10 last edited by
So you can't, or more likely, don't want to. Fine with me. Probably fine with everyone else too.
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So you can't, or more likely, don't want to. Fine with me. Probably fine with everyone else too.
wrote on 23 Jan 2021, 00:51 last edited by@renauda said in No test, no entry:
So you can't, or more likely, don't want to. Fine with me. Probably fine with everyone else too.
Yes everyone hates me and loves you.
You are sooooo lucky.
I love you too!
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wrote on 23 Jan 2021, 00:55 last edited by
Yeah, but he's Canadian.
They're likeable.
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wrote on 23 Jan 2021, 01:48 last edited by
Neither of you make any sense.
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wrote on 23 Jan 2021, 01:52 last edited by
If the US goal was to have a non-unified response that left small businesses open then shut then part open, then part shut, etc, and people having a fear of going to eat in restaurants or any other public spots, while at the same time having a large number of sickness and death, then the goal was successful.
Countries like Taiwan, Thailand, etc are not perfect, but for them by extending the "bubble" across the whole country, they have at least allowed some sense of "normal" with regards to businesses within the country. Has the economy had some effect? Of course, but probably not any worse than the US.
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If the US goal was to have a non-unified response that left small businesses open then shut then part open, then part shut, etc, and people having a fear of going to eat in restaurants or any other public spots, while at the same time having a large number of sickness and death, then the goal was successful.
Countries like Taiwan, Thailand, etc are not perfect, but for them by extending the "bubble" across the whole country, they have at least allowed some sense of "normal" with regards to businesses within the country. Has the economy had some effect? Of course, but probably not any worse than the US.
wrote on 23 Jan 2021, 17:23 last edited by RenaudaI cannot begin to guess what the US' goal was or has been. I know this much from this country which is a confederation, that the goal varied from province to province.
Some like the Atlantic provinces and the northern territories sought to minimize the spread of the virus and eradicate it altogether. In the first wave the Atlantic provinces were quite successful by building a bubble and closing off the provinces to all but essential business traffic into and out of the region. Although the Atlantic bubble was abandoned during the second wave, the Atlantic region has managed to keep cases low by maintaining clear rules for retail businesses, closing schools and enforcing rules limiting public gatherings. The Northwest Territories up north, has thus far been successful at keeping the virus pretty much out of its jurisdiction altogether through strict travel requirements and quarantine measures. Life there is pretty much normal.
Elsewhere in the country the goals have been pretty much limited to minimizing the spread through voluntary compliance and short term closures of various retail outlets and schools. Some areas have more stringent measures in place than others and it can even vary among local areas within each province.
Here in Alberta for example, you can be fined if you entertain guests in your house unless you live alone and then you are allowed one guest. This rule has been in place since before Xmas. Is it working? Possibly, although the I believe the numbers are coming down more because bars, restaurants and the fact that middle and high schools were closed from December 15 until January 11. Now that the schools have be reopened, I suspect we will see numbers start creeping back up again next week.
However if there is one general request across the board, the overall recommendation is avoid all non essential personal travel within the country and abroad. That means have a staycation at home and don't leave the country unless it is absolutely necessary or your job is such that you must travel out your city or abroad for work.