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Why is this not surprising?

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    Mik
    wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 13:54 last edited by
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    In this climate it is the only smart thing to do politically.

    It also builds trust at home, which is even more important.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • M Mik
      19 Jan 2021, 13:54

      In this climate it is the only smart thing to do politically.

      It also builds trust at home, which is even more important.

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      Catseye3
      wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 13:57 last edited by
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      @mik said in Why is this not surprising?:

      It also builds trust at home, which is even more important.

      If there's trust at home, there's no need for a frankly insulting rule like this one. If trust is lacking, the rule is easily gotten around and is therefore not only silly, but also useless.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 14:02 last edited by
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        I have a rule never to be alone with an American unless a psychiatrist is present.

        I was only joking

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        • G George K
          19 Jan 2021, 02:56

          @doctor-phibes said in Why is this not surprising?:

          Mike Pence has done himself a lot of good over the last 4 weeks.

          BUT HE WON'T BE SEEN WITH A WOMAN WITHOUT HIS WIFE PRESENT!

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 14:04 last edited by
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          @george-k said in Why is this not surprising?:

          BUT HE WON'T BE SEEN WITH A WOMAN WITHOUT HIS WIFE PRESENT!

          I think this rule is genius because you save so much money not having to take your mistress out. You can just say “look, I can’t take you to dinner, I’ll just come over.” At most you’re out the cost of a bottle of wine and a box of condoms.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • C Catseye3
            19 Jan 2021, 13:57

            @mik said in Why is this not surprising?:

            It also builds trust at home, which is even more important.

            If there's trust at home, there's no need for a frankly insulting rule like this one. If trust is lacking, the rule is easily gotten around and is therefore not only silly, but also useless.

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            jodi
            wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 14:36 last edited by
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            @catseye3 completely agree. I have never ever worried about my husband being seen or being alone in any space with another person who happens to be a woman, he has to meet every day with all sorts of people, often just one person, and I can assure you that kind of distrust and those kinds of thoughts are not on anyone’s mind. And it’s not a trust he had to “earn” from me, the kind of person he is was apparent from the very beginning.

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            • J jodi
              19 Jan 2021, 14:36

              @catseye3 completely agree. I have never ever worried about my husband being seen or being alone in any space with another person who happens to be a woman, he has to meet every day with all sorts of people, often just one person, and I can assure you that kind of distrust and those kinds of thoughts are not on anyone’s mind. And it’s not a trust he had to “earn” from me, the kind of person he is was apparent from the very beginning.

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              George K
              wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 14:41 last edited by
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              @jodi said in Why is this not surprising?:

              I have never ever worried about my husband being seen or being alone in any space with another person who happens to be a woman, he has to meet every day with all sorts of people,

              Agreed. However, as a public figure, I can see some rando idiot taking a photo of him having lunch with someone, and the next thing you know, The National Enquirer plasters the picture all over the front page: "Veep and his Girlfriend enjoy lunch at intimate setting!"

              It's not that they don't trust each other, it's that they don't trust people outside their relationship.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                19 Jan 2021, 14:41

                @jodi said in Why is this not surprising?:

                I have never ever worried about my husband being seen or being alone in any space with another person who happens to be a woman, he has to meet every day with all sorts of people,

                Agreed. However, as a public figure, I can see some rando idiot taking a photo of him having lunch with someone, and the next thing you know, The National Enquirer plasters the picture all over the front page: "Veep and his Girlfriend enjoy lunch at intimate setting!"

                It's not that they don't trust each other, it's that they don't trust people outside their relationship.

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                jodi
                wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 14:47 last edited by
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                @george-k Yes, you are right - as a public figure - and I think I was (over 😄)reacting to Mik’s statement about building trust at home. 😄

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:03 last edited by
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                  And I think you and Cats are both wrong.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:16 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #19

                    What if he's secretly gay?

                    (It's a joke, dumbass, however it leads to the conclusion that no person should be with any other person they're not married to without a third party being present)

                    I was only joking

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                    • C Catseye3
                      19 Jan 2021, 13:57

                      @mik said in Why is this not surprising?:

                      It also builds trust at home, which is even more important.

                      If there's trust at home, there's no need for a frankly insulting rule like this one. If trust is lacking, the rule is easily gotten around and is therefore not only silly, but also useless.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:27 last edited by Jolly
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                      @catseye3 said in Why is this not surprising?:

                      @mik said in Why is this not surprising?:

                      It also builds trust at home, which is even more important.

                      If there's trust at home, there's no need for a frankly insulting rule like this one. If trust is lacking, the rule is easily gotten around and is therefore not only silly, but also useless.

                      @catseye3 said in Why is this not surprising?:

                      @mik said in Why is this not surprising?:

                      It also builds trust at home, which is even more important.

                      If there's trust at home, there's no need for a frankly insulting rule like this one. If trust is lacking, the rule is easily gotten around and is therefore not only silly, but also useless.

                      Got any bona fides to back that statement up?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        19 Jan 2021, 14:04

                        @george-k said in Why is this not surprising?:

                        BUT HE WON'T BE SEEN WITH A WOMAN WITHOUT HIS WIFE PRESENT!

                        I think this rule is genius because you save so much money not having to take your mistress out. You can just say “look, I can’t take you to dinner, I’ll just come over.” At most you’re out the cost of a bottle of wine and a box of condoms.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:29 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Why is this not surprising?:

                        @george-k said in Why is this not surprising?:

                        BUT HE WON'T BE SEEN WITH A WOMAN WITHOUT HIS WIFE PRESENT!

                        I think this rule is genius because you save so much money not having to take your mistress out. You can just say “look, I can’t take you to dinner, I’ll just come over.” At most you’re out the cost of a bottle of wine and a box of condoms.

                        Projecting much?😄😄

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:31 last edited by
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                          It's worth noting that Mike Pence could never get away with this if he had a proper job.

                          I was only joking

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:51 last edited by
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                            Well, he doesn't, hasn't, and is unlikely to have a job where he cannot make this happen so it's irrelevant.

                            Rather than slagging the guy in a field where infidelity is legion, maybe we ought to recognize him for the integrity he has clearly shown throughout his career and the past four years.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • M Mik
                              19 Jan 2021, 15:51

                              Well, he doesn't, hasn't, and is unlikely to have a job where he cannot make this happen so it's irrelevant.

                              Rather than slagging the guy in a field where infidelity is legion, maybe we ought to recognize him for the integrity he has clearly shown throughout his career and the past four years.

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                              jodi
                              wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:55 last edited by jodi
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                              @mik Do you think infidelity is more common in the political realm than in any other? (Not trying to argue, I just sort of assume that infidelity probably occurs at the same rate all over, we just hear about the public figures more)

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                              • J jodi
                                19 Jan 2021, 15:55

                                @mik Do you think infidelity is more common in the political realm than in any other? (Not trying to argue, I just sort of assume that infidelity probably occurs at the same rate all over, we just hear about the public figures more)

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                                George K
                                wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:56 last edited by George K
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                                @jodi said in Why is this not surprising?:

                                @mik Do you think infidelity is more common in the political realm than in any other?

                                Interesting question. Perhaps it could be expanded to “Do you think that infidelity is more common by those in power?”

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:57 last edited by
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                                  I think opportunities for male infidelity vary with status and power so it’s pretty rampant in politics but at the top of other professions too.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    jodi
                                    wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:59 last edited by jodi
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                                    Sorry, I was editing as you all commented. Surely people are drawn to people with perceived power, and people with power sometimes take advantage. But people also cheat. I don’t know that it’s more likely to happen when there is power involved. It’s sometimes just hormones.

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                                      Loki
                                      wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 17:35 last edited by
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                                      Good for McConnell and McCarthy prioritizing Biden event over Trump send off. Playing ball at least initially.

                                      https://www.axios.com/republican-leaders-biden-church-skip-trump-departure-75c20557-3968-4815-8f0c-e6d1ff46704e.html

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                                      • M Mik
                                        19 Jan 2021, 15:51

                                        Well, he doesn't, hasn't, and is unlikely to have a job where he cannot make this happen so it's irrelevant.

                                        Rather than slagging the guy in a field where infidelity is legion, maybe we ought to recognize him for the integrity he has clearly shown throughout his career and the past four years.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 17:40 last edited by
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                                        @mik said in Why is this not surprising?:

                                        Well, he doesn't, hasn't, and is unlikely to have a job where he cannot make this happen so it's irrelevant.

                                        Rather than slagging the guy in a field where infidelity is legion, maybe we ought to recognize him for the integrity he has clearly shown throughout his career and the past four years.

                                        This discussion actually started with me praising him.

                                        It's that inveterate troll George K you have to thank for the rest of it!

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          19 Jan 2021, 14:04

                                          @george-k said in Why is this not surprising?:

                                          BUT HE WON'T BE SEEN WITH A WOMAN WITHOUT HIS WIFE PRESENT!

                                          I think this rule is genius because you save so much money not having to take your mistress out. You can just say “look, I can’t take you to dinner, I’ll just come over.” At most you’re out the cost of a bottle of wine and a box of condoms.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 17:45 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Why is this not surprising?:

                                          I think this rule is genius because you save so much money not having to take your mistress out. You can just say “look, I can’t take you to dinner, I’ll just come over.” At most you’re out the cost of a bottle of wine and a box of condoms.

                                          There's no flies on Mike Pence.

                                          I was only joking

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