Impeachment timing
-
I think that's the way it should be. It's serious business and should be treated as such.
Not this silliness we've seen in the last few years.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
Warning: I post things that interest me. Read and comment at your own discretion. -
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
-
@george-k said in Impeachment timing:
@jolly said in Impeachment timing:
It's serious business and should be treated as such.
You can bet that it won't be. What do you think the odds are that, if/when the GOP takes the House they won't impeach Biden?
Ukraine, you know....
China, you know...
-
@george-k said in Impeachment timing:
@jolly I found it interesting that, until 1912, the president was not considered impeached until the articles had been delivered to the Senate floor.
That makes sense. Kind of like the courts system. Until the charge is formal, etc. it is not official.
I think the Democrats are starting to realize that maybe it is okay just to have President Trump leave office in kind of a "disgrace". The impeachment will, I think, just cause problems that nobody wants.
-
-
Can a President be impeached for things that he did prior to becoming President?
Even if he were a private citizen?
-
@taiwan_girl said in Impeachment timing:
Can a President be impeached for things that he did prior to becoming President?
Even if he were a private citizen?
The better question is whether a President can be impeached for things they did as VP...
-
I think you should do away with Presidents. They're a bloody liability.
-
@lufins-dad said in Impeachment timing:
The better question is whether a President can be impeached for things they did as VP.
AFAICT, The Constitution doesn't specify "High crimes and misdemeanors" while in office.
"“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”"
I think this means whatever the House of Representatives wants it to mean.
-
Now, Senate Republicans are also, apparently, beginning to realize the issues involved in the impeachment of a former president. They are reportedly adopting the position that an ex-president cannot be impeached. The idea is that impeachment is the Constitution's method for removing a president found guilty of a certain set of offenses -- "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." The important thing is that it is a method for removal, and you cannot remove a president who has already left office.
Democrats argue that there can still be an impeachment trial for former President Trump because the Constitution says that a convicted president can also be disqualified from holding "any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States" -- that is, any federal office, like the presidency or member of Congress. But here is the thing: The Constitution says that "The president, vice president and all civil officers of the United States shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." Who did the framers mean when they referred to "the president"? Did they mean the President of the United States? There's only one of them at a time. Or did they mean anyone who has served as president? It seems obvious they meant the president in office. The text of the Constitution is pretty clear: Impeachment is for the serving president. Donald Trump is not the president now.
By the way, The Speaker still has not delivered articles of impeachment to the Senate.
-
Assuming the scenario that 17 GOP senators will never convict what is the benefit of going through with this. Can someone explain the rationale in my scenario? Also assuming same how does this tie to the Unity vision and mission statement?
To be clear this is not a rhetorical question.
-
@loki said in Impeachment timing:
Assuming the scenario that 17 GOP senators will never convict what is the benefit of going through with this. Can someone explain the rationale in my scenario? Also assuming same how does this tie to the Unity vision and mission statement?
This is the question what was asked in January. No one, afaik, came up with a satisfactory answer, other than, "It was cathartic, sort of like taking a huge dump."
"Unity?" Fuggheddabodit!
-
@loki said in Impeachment timing:
Assuming the scenario that 17 GOP senators will never convict what is the benefit of going through with this. Can someone explain the rationale in my scenario? Also assuming same how does this tie to the Unity vision and mission statement?
To be clear this is not a rhetorical question.
-
Throwing red meat to the rabid masses on both sides.
-
Sleight of Hand... Look at my assistant in the lingerie while I tie this mirror up with fishing line....
-
Teach a lesson to any outsider that they will utterly destroy you if you don’t play the game.
-
Circus Maximus
-
-
@george-k said in Impeachment timing:
@loki said in Impeachment timing:
Assuming the scenario that 17 GOP senators will never convict what is the benefit of going through with this. Can someone explain the rationale in my scenario? Also assuming same how does this tie to the Unity vision and mission statement?
This is the question what was asked in January. No one, afaik, came up with a satisfactory answer, other than, "It was cathartic, sort of like taking a huge dump."
"Unity?" Fuggheddabodit!
So unity falls apart on the first flight. I think Biden has used the word too many times to duck this.
-
-
-
An impeachment trial is going to reveal so many facts regarding what happened on January 6th. The narrative will change dramatically one way or the other.
For example, it was reported the barricades had been breached during Trump’s speech, 40 minutes of walking apart. Some Congresscritters already had evacuated or gone into hiding. No way the breachers had heard Trump’s speech.
It will be a very interesting week if Trump in the headlines is what you want.
