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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    ..are on the positives that remain asymtomatic or very mild. Age and sex mix, ethnicity, comorbidities.

    Not seeing any of that. It is difficult to accurately assess one’s risk in the absence.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
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      Agree, but I can see why this is difficult to aggregate.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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        Isn't the main problem that there's not enough testing going on to figure this out?

        I was only joking

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        • CopperC Offline
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          I think there are at least 2 stories.

          1. There is not enough testing where it is needed.

          2. There is not enough testing to test everyone in the country 3 or 4 times per year.

          The first story is a real problem.

          The second story is a political weapon.

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          • L Offline
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            I could be wrong but I sense a very significant shift in our testing ability happening and in time for our guidelines. It’s a bit trickier than vents but I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump is crowing in three weeks.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #6

              Has Trump ever not crowed?

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
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                #7

                MD just got 500,000 tests. From South Korea.

                Governor's wife had the hookup.

                Please love yourself.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Has Trump ever not crowed?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #8

                  @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                  Has Trump ever not crowed?

                  And that, more than anything else, pisses me off about him. Put aside the policy successes and failures - every time I hear "beautiful," "powerful," come out of his mouth it makes me cringe.

                  He's still bragging about ventilators today.

                  Stop it, and he'll gain a lot of credibility. I don't think it's in his DNA, however.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    MD just got 500,000 tests. From South Korea.

                    Governor's wife had the hookup.

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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The stats I would like to see:

                    MD just got 500,000 tests. From South Korea.

                    Governor's wife had the hookup.

                    Will be interesting to see if that was necessary or not. The task force alleges there is plenty of capacity he did not know about. Will be a good political fight tomorrow.

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                    • L Loki

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The stats I would like to see:

                      MD just got 500,000 tests. From South Korea.

                      Governor's wife had the hookup.

                      Will be interesting to see if that was necessary or not. The task force alleges there is plenty of capacity he did not know about. Will be a good political fight tomorrow.

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      @Loki said in The stats I would like to see:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The stats I would like to see:

                      MD just got 500,000 tests. From South Korea.

                      Governor's wife had the hookup.

                      Will be interesting to see if that was necessary or not. The task force alleges there is plenty of capacity he did not know about. Will be a good political fight tomorrow.

                      Uh, there isn't. His plan to reopen the state includes X tests ready to go. We have far less than that.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        A tidbit along the lines of what I asked here. 60% of the sailors who have tested positive about carrier Roosevelt are asymptomatic.

                        https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-152447944.html

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          A tidbit along the lines of what I asked here. 60% of the sailors who have tested positive about carrier Roosevelt are asymptomatic.

                          https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-152447944.html

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                          @Mik said in The stats I would like to see:

                          A tidbit along the lines of what I asked here. 60% of the sailors who have tested positive about carrier Roosevelt are asymptomatic.

                          https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-clue-most-cases-aboard-152447944.html

                          This is a disease we are so far away from understanding.

                          Decades ago, I remember being taught that tuberculosis was "the great impersonator." This reminds me of that.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            I keep hearing from the icu people where I work that the one obvious features of the intubated which is not getting as much air time as hypertension or cardiovascular disease as a comorbiidty, is obesity.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                              Has Trump ever not crowed?

                              And that, more than anything else, pisses me off about him. Put aside the policy successes and failures - every time I hear "beautiful," "powerful," come out of his mouth it makes me cringe.

                              He's still bragging about ventilators today.

                              Stop it, and he'll gain a lot of credibility. I don't think it's in his DNA, however.

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                              @George-K said in The stats I would like to see:

                              @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                              Has Trump ever not crowed?

                              And that, more than anything else, pisses me off about him. Put aside the policy successes and failures - every time I hear "beautiful," "powerful," come out of his mouth it makes me cringe.

                              He's still bragging about ventilators today.

                              Stop it, and he'll gain a lot of credibility. I don't think it's in his DNA, however.

                              Trump's gotta Trump...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • George KG George K

                                @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                                Has Trump ever not crowed?

                                And that, more than anything else, pisses me off about him. Put aside the policy successes and failures - every time I hear "beautiful," "powerful," come out of his mouth it makes me cringe.

                                He's still bragging about ventilators today.

                                Stop it, and he'll gain a lot of credibility. I don't think it's in his DNA, however.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @George-K said in The stats I would like to see:

                                @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                                Has Trump ever not crowed?

                                And that, more than anything else, pisses me off about him. Put aside the policy successes and failures - every time I hear "beautiful," "powerful," come out of his mouth it makes me cringe.

                                He's still bragging about ventilators today.

                                Stop it, and he'll gain a lot of credibility. I don't think it's in his DNA, however.

                                I mean this as a serious comment, not snark - it makes me wonder how people view him as 'strong' or masculine in any way. He's so transparently needy and he does nothing to hide how fragile his ego is.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @George-K said in The stats I would like to see:

                                  @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                                  Has Trump ever not crowed?

                                  And that, more than anything else, pisses me off about him. Put aside the policy successes and failures - every time I hear "beautiful," "powerful," come out of his mouth it makes me cringe.

                                  He's still bragging about ventilators today.

                                  Stop it, and he'll gain a lot of credibility. I don't think it's in his DNA, however.

                                  I mean this as a serious comment, not snark - it makes me wonder how people view him as 'strong' or masculine in any way. He's so transparently needy and he does nothing to hide how fragile his ego is.

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                                  @jon-nyc But isn't Trump's style in part just the way countless monarchs viewed themselves? Trump's personality can be seen as a kind of cross-breed between Louis XIV and a redneck, I think.

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                                  • KlausK Klaus

                                    @jon-nyc But isn't Trump's style in part just the way countless monarchs viewed themselves? Trump's personality can be seen as a kind of cross-breed between Louis XIV and a redneck, I think.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    @Klaus said in The stats I would like to see:

                                    @jon-nyc But isn't Trump's style in part just the way countless monarchs viewed themselves? Trump's personality can be seen as a kind of cross-breed between Louis XIV and a redneck, I think.

                                    I'll have to think about your first sentence but the second one made me laugh out loud.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @George-K said in The stats I would like to see:

                                      @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                                      Has Trump ever not crowed?

                                      And that, more than anything else, pisses me off about him. Put aside the policy successes and failures - every time I hear "beautiful," "powerful," come out of his mouth it makes me cringe.

                                      He's still bragging about ventilators today.

                                      Stop it, and he'll gain a lot of credibility. I don't think it's in his DNA, however.

                                      I mean this as a serious comment, not snark - it makes me wonder how people view him as 'strong' or masculine in any way. He's so transparently needy and he does nothing to hide how fragile his ego is.

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                                      Jolly
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                                      #18

                                      @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                                      @George-K said in The stats I would like to see:

                                      @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                                      Has Trump ever not crowed?

                                      And that, more than anything else, pisses me off about him. Put aside the policy successes and failures - every time I hear "beautiful," "powerful," come out of his mouth it makes me cringe.

                                      He's still bragging about ventilators today.

                                      Stop it, and he'll gain a lot of credibility. I don't think it's in his DNA, however.

                                      I mean this as a serious comment, not snark - it makes me wonder how people view him as 'strong' or masculine in any way. He's so transparently needy and he does nothing to hide how fragile his ego is.

                                      Anybody in the Oval Office has a huge ego. It goes with the territory. In that respect, I think he has a lot in common with his Presidential Ideal, which is Andrew Jackson.

                                      As for some of the other stuff, Trump is a promoter, be it real estate or business. Whether that is his natural personality or something that grew on him through the years, I don't know.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Klaus said in The stats I would like to see:

                                        @jon-nyc But isn't Trump's style in part just the way countless monarchs viewed themselves? Trump's personality can be seen as a kind of cross-breed between Louis XIV and a redneck, I think.

                                        I'll have to think about your first sentence but the second one made me laugh out loud.

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                                        @jon-nyc I think it's not completely absurd. Mar-a-lago is a kind of poor man's version of Versailles. Just look at the Hall of Mirrors in Versailles. Doesn't take a lot of fantasy to imagine how much Trump would have liked to have a hall like that.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @George-K said in The stats I would like to see:

                                          @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                                          Has Trump ever not crowed?

                                          And that, more than anything else, pisses me off about him. Put aside the policy successes and failures - every time I hear "beautiful," "powerful," come out of his mouth it makes me cringe.

                                          He's still bragging about ventilators today.

                                          Stop it, and he'll gain a lot of credibility. I don't think it's in his DNA, however.

                                          I mean this as a serious comment, not snark - it makes me wonder how people view him as 'strong' or masculine in any way. He's so transparently needy and he does nothing to hide how fragile his ego is.

                                          CopperC Offline
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                                          @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                                          @George-K said in The stats I would like to see:

                                          @jon-nyc said in The stats I would like to see:

                                          wonder how people view him as 'strong' or masculine in any way.

                                          I know there are many genders these days, but assuming there are only 2.

                                          That guy is not feminine.

                                          He may have have his problems but his gender is established.

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