Lockdowns don't work?

[Mik]

It is obvious they do work. We flattened the curve over the spring. Then we opened up a little too much and it spiked. It is clear to anyone that limiting contact will limit spread.

[George K]

@mik said in Lockdowns don't work?:

It is clear to anyone that limiting contact will limit spread.

The study I posted questions that.

Lockdowns vs responsible social distancing. I think their point is that you can't make the distinction between the effectiveness of either.

Basically, they're asking, "If I wear a mask, stay 6 feet away from others in a restaurant, is that just as good as closing the restaurant down?"

They seem to say, "Yeah, that's just as good."

[Mik]

Make tables 15 feet apart and I might not be so skeptical. I always felt 6 feet was too little.

But most restaurants cannot live on the reduced throughput anyway. The smart ones are the ones who are figuring out how to attract the takeout market.

Honestly, we have not seen that many restaurants close around here. Folks are supporting them pretty well. Bars? I'm having a hard time seeing how necessary they are given that the nature of their business encourages poor adherence.

[Loki]

It’s exactly what I predicted months ago. Almost verbatim.

[Mik]

@loki said in Lockdowns don't work?:

It’s exactly what I predicted months ago. Almost verbatim.

Yes, it is.

[Renauda]

Let's see how relaxed measures pan out for the new mutations, specifically the UK and South Africa variant and more recently, the Brazil mutation. Apparently, with the latter there is some concern as to the efficacy of the current vaccines against it.

[Jolly]

If I had a dollar for everytime I heard before the election, that if Biden were elected, COVID would be over when he took office, I'd buy us all a bottle if (expensive) scotch.

[taiwan_girl]

@jolly said in Lockdowns don't work?:

If I had a dollar for everytime I heard before the election, that if Biden were elected, COVID would be over when he took office, I'd buy us all a bottle if (expensive) scotch.

I would have been able to buy nothing.

Nobody I spoke to or heard from ever thought that the virus would be done in mid January.

In regard to lockdowns, if you go 100%, it can be effective. But I do think that the curve does change pretty quickly when you go below 100%. But, I am a big favor of masks, and that is why I would be concerned about going into a restaurant in the US to eat, but not be as concerned to go to a grocery store to buy stuff.

[kluurs]

Japan didn't do lockdowns - but they did get high compliance with other measures. Compliance is not part of our lexicon.

[LuFins Dad]

@jolly said in Lockdowns don't work?:

If I had a dollar for everytime I heard before the election, that if Biden were elected, COVID would be over when he took office, I'd buy us all a bottle if (expensive) scotch.

Yeah, but it was the Republicans saying that. Not that the problem would actually be over, but that the media would decide it’s all better...