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    Jolly
    wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 15:09 last edited by
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    Hmmmm?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Mik
      wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 15:11 last edited by
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      To where? Hell, maybe?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
        wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 16:16 last edited by
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        Kelly Conway called for them to come back this morning.

        Shucks, test them and a limited number of staffers, then sequester the whole bunch.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Mik
          wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 16:21 last edited by
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          OK, not Hell. Jail then?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • M Mik
            20 Apr 2020, 16:21

            OK, not Hell. Jail then?

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            Jolly
            wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 21:46 last edited by
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            @Mik said in Should Congress go back?:

            OK, not Hell. Jail then?

            As close as we can make it....

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 22:28 last edited by
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              Do you want elected representatives who spend all their time in DC or elected representatives who also spend lots of time living with the people in the communities they represent?

              It's 2020, we have great telecommunications and remote collaboration technologies now. Let the elected representatives do their work remotely.

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              • A Axtremus
                20 Apr 2020, 22:28

                Do you want elected representatives who spend all their time in DC or elected representatives who also spend lots of time living with the people in the communities they represent?

                It's 2020, we have great telecommunications and remote collaboration technologies now. Let the elected representatives do their work remotely.

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                George K
                wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 22:31 last edited by
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                @Axtremus said in Should Congress go back?:

                Do you want elected representatives who spend all their time in DC or elected representatives who also spend lots of time living with the people in the communities they represent?

                It's 2020, we have great telecommunications and remote collaboration technologies now. Let the elected representatives do their work remotely.

                I agree.

                Side benefit: less interference influence from lobbyists and their ilk, perhaps.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • A Axtremus
                  20 Apr 2020, 22:28

                  Do you want elected representatives who spend all their time in DC or elected representatives who also spend lots of time living with the people in the communities they represent?

                  It's 2020, we have great telecommunications and remote collaboration technologies now. Let the elected representatives do their work remotely.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 22:39 last edited by
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                  @Axtremus said in Should Congress go back?:

                  Do you want elected representatives who spend all their time in DC or elected representatives who also spend lots of time living with the people in the communities they represent?

                  It's 2020, we have great telecommunications and remote collaboration technologies now. Let the elected representatives do their work remotely.

                  I want them live and in person. I've long advocated housing them in an apartment building, along with some staff, dining, lounge and exercise facilities on the premises.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Larry
                    wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 22:42 last edited by
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                    Trump should declare martial law, suspend Congress, fire their asses, and put every fucking one of the democrats on trial for treason.

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                      mark
                      wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 22:56 last edited by
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                      Oh yes, because a dictatorship is so much better than a representative republic.

                      GMAFB and stop with your totalitarian bullshit.

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                        Larry
                        wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 23:12 last edited by
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                        If the Democrat party hadn't become a fascist terrorist organization I would agree with you. But they have, so honest representation is already dead. I suppose if the communist party became established well enough to have some seats in Congress you'd defend them too?

                        The government has been taken over by a bunch of evil morons. They need to go.

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                          Larry
                          wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 23:14 last edited by
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                          Also, it's obvious you don't know the difference between a declaration on martial law in a representative government and a dictator.

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                            mark
                            wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 23:33 last edited by
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                            No, it is not "obvious" that I don't know that. You just want your hero to rule over all of us with an iron fist. Fuck that. Just because people do not agree with you, does not mean they should not take part in our process of government.

                            Putting the president up on some pedestal to never be criticized, is the most un-American thing I can think of. He is not a king. Last time we had a king, we went to war and won the right to make fun of, and criticize our "leaders", at will, and without restriction.

                            You sure did your part for 8 years, took an 8 year break, then did it all over again for 8 years.

                            I have been criticizing and making fun of, our "leaders" my entire life. Regardless of party affiliation. I am not about to stop now. Especially when the current occupant makes it so easy with his own words, and actions.

                            In my opinion, he is the absolute worst president this country has ever had.

                            And before you say that I am biased, don't even go there. I don't watch any of the news. I basically just watch him, make a complete and utter ass of himself, almost on a daily basis.

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                            • M mark
                              20 Apr 2020, 23:33

                              No, it is not "obvious" that I don't know that. You just want your hero to rule over all of us with an iron fist. Fuck that. Just because people do not agree with you, does not mean they should not take part in our process of government.

                              Putting the president up on some pedestal to never be criticized, is the most un-American thing I can think of. He is not a king. Last time we had a king, we went to war and won the right to make fun of, and criticize our "leaders", at will, and without restriction.

                              You sure did your part for 8 years, took an 8 year break, then did it all over again for 8 years.

                              I have been criticizing and making fun of, our "leaders" my entire life. Regardless of party affiliation. I am not about to stop now. Especially when the current occupant makes it so easy with his own words, and actions.

                              In my opinion, he is the absolute worst president this country has ever had.

                              And before you say that I am biased, don't even go there. I don't watch any of the news. I basically just watch him, make a complete and utter ass of himself, almost on a daily basis.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 21 Apr 2020, 00:05 last edited by
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                              @mark said in Should Congress go back?:

                              No, it is not "obvious" that I don't know that. You just want your hero to rule over all of us with an iron fist. Fuck that. Just because people do not agree with you, does not mean they should not take part in our process of government.

                              Putting the president up on some pedestal to never be criticized, is the most un-American thing I can think of. He is not a king. Last time we had a king, we went to war and won the right to make fun of, and criticize our "leaders", at will, and without restriction.

                              You sure did your part for 8 years, took an 8 year break, then did it all over again for 8 years.

                              I have been criticizing and making fun of, our "leaders" my entire life. Regardless of party affiliation. I am not about to stop now. Especially when the current occupant makes it so easy with his own words, and actions.

                              In my opinion, he is the absolute worst president this country has ever had.

                              And before you say that I am biased, don't even go there. I don't watch any of the news. I basically just watch him, make a complete and utter ass of himself, almost on a daily basis.

                              And in my opinion, you hate and you hate hard. You might hate Trump more than usual, but you hate the government in general, with an everyday loathing.

                              I'm no huge fan of government, but it does fulfill necessary functions to keep society running at a decent level. It's not always bad.

                              Speaking of not always bad, Trump is not always bad. I think most of his nominated judges are exactly what is needed. I agree with many of his economic policies. I applaud his stance on border security. I think his policy on the eradication of outdated and unnecessary rules is outstanding. Before this current pandemic came along, we had pretty much full employment...Lowest level of black unemployment in history, lowest level of Hispanic unemployment in history. And for the first time in many years, America was energy independent.

                              So if you're going to hate and if you are going to criticize, at least be fair. Anything else is just babbling bullshit.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                mark
                                wrote on 21 Apr 2020, 00:16 last edited by
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                                No, I do not hate the entire government. It is supposed to serve the people and I want it to do so. It just has failed miserably at it for many decades now.

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                                • M mark
                                  20 Apr 2020, 23:33

                                  No, it is not "obvious" that I don't know that. You just want your hero to rule over all of us with an iron fist. Fuck that. Just because people do not agree with you, does not mean they should not take part in our process of government.

                                  Putting the president up on some pedestal to never be criticized, is the most un-American thing I can think of. He is not a king. Last time we had a king, we went to war and won the right to make fun of, and criticize our "leaders", at will, and without restriction.

                                  You sure did your part for 8 years, took an 8 year break, then did it all over again for 8 years.

                                  I have been criticizing and making fun of, our "leaders" my entire life. Regardless of party affiliation. I am not about to stop now. Especially when the current occupant makes it so easy with his own words, and actions.

                                  In my opinion, he is the absolute worst president this country has ever had.

                                  And before you say that I am biased, don't even go there. I don't watch any of the news. I basically just watch him, make a complete and utter ass of himself, almost on a daily basis.

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                                  Larry
                                  wrote on 21 Apr 2020, 04:54 last edited by
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                                  @mark said in Should Congress go back?:

                                  No, it is not "obvious" that I don't know that. You just want your hero to rule over all of us with an iron fist. Fuck that. Just because people do not agree with you, does not mean they should not take part in our process of government.

                                  Putting the president up on some pedestal to never be criticized, is the most un-American thing I can think of. He is not a king. Last time we had a king, we went to war and won the right to make fun of, and criticize our "leaders", at will, and without restriction.

                                  You sure did your part for 8 years, took an 8 year break, then did it all over again for 8 years.

                                  I have been criticizing and making fun of, our "leaders" my entire life. Regardless of party affiliation. I am not about to stop now. Especially when the current occupant makes it so easy with his own words, and actions.

                                  In my opinion, he is the absolute worst president this country has ever had.

                                  And before you say that I am biased, don't even go there. I don't watch any of the news. I basically just watch him, make a complete and utter ass of himself, almost on a daily basis.

                                  Yes, it is obvious. A dictator rules alone. Period. For as long as he holds power, usually through control of the military. That is NOT what I suggested. Martial law in the US has limits. The main limit is that it's temporary.

                                  Now if you want to know what a dictatorship is, if you want to know what authoritarian is, first you need to open your eyes to the reality of what the Left and the Democrat party has become. You will find out that while you were pissing and moaning about Trump being the worst president this country has ever had, you'll find out that the only thing standing between us and totalitarian rule is Trump. I don't have a problem with legitimate criticism - but you have yet to offer any. By your own admission you don't stay up on current events, you just base your hate on how you perceive the man by watching him. And yes, you are biased.

                                  Your hatred of the man is obvious. You couldn't be objective if you wanted to. And since you don't keep up with current events, you don't know enough about what's actually going on to be objective. I do not put the man "on a pedestal". I just know the evil that is represented by the Left today, see you and others blindly bashing the man from day one when you had no fucking clue what kind of President he would be, watched as every single one of his detractors predictions about how awful a president he is turn out to be WRONG, and I see nothing but blind hate.

                                  You don't like him. Fine. But if you're going to criticize him, do it with substance instead of the shit that's been shoveled the last 3 years.

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                                  • L Larry
                                    21 Apr 2020, 04:54

                                    @mark said in Should Congress go back?:

                                    No, it is not "obvious" that I don't know that. You just want your hero to rule over all of us with an iron fist. Fuck that. Just because people do not agree with you, does not mean they should not take part in our process of government.

                                    Putting the president up on some pedestal to never be criticized, is the most un-American thing I can think of. He is not a king. Last time we had a king, we went to war and won the right to make fun of, and criticize our "leaders", at will, and without restriction.

                                    You sure did your part for 8 years, took an 8 year break, then did it all over again for 8 years.

                                    I have been criticizing and making fun of, our "leaders" my entire life. Regardless of party affiliation. I am not about to stop now. Especially when the current occupant makes it so easy with his own words, and actions.

                                    In my opinion, he is the absolute worst president this country has ever had.

                                    And before you say that I am biased, don't even go there. I don't watch any of the news. I basically just watch him, make a complete and utter ass of himself, almost on a daily basis.

                                    Yes, it is obvious. A dictator rules alone. Period. For as long as he holds power, usually through control of the military. That is NOT what I suggested. Martial law in the US has limits. The main limit is that it's temporary.

                                    Now if you want to know what a dictatorship is, if you want to know what authoritarian is, first you need to open your eyes to the reality of what the Left and the Democrat party has become. You will find out that while you were pissing and moaning about Trump being the worst president this country has ever had, you'll find out that the only thing standing between us and totalitarian rule is Trump. I don't have a problem with legitimate criticism - but you have yet to offer any. By your own admission you don't stay up on current events, you just base your hate on how you perceive the man by watching him. And yes, you are biased.

                                    Your hatred of the man is obvious. You couldn't be objective if you wanted to. And since you don't keep up with current events, you don't know enough about what's actually going on to be objective. I do not put the man "on a pedestal". I just know the evil that is represented by the Left today, see you and others blindly bashing the man from day one when you had no fucking clue what kind of President he would be, watched as every single one of his detractors predictions about how awful a president he is turn out to be WRONG, and I see nothing but blind hate.

                                    You don't like him. Fine. But if you're going to criticize him, do it with substance instead of the shit that's been shoveled the last 3 years.

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                                    wrote on 21 Apr 2020, 13:25 last edited by
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                                    @Larry said in Should Congress go back?:

                                    I just know the evil that is represented by the Left today

                                    Larry, what exactly is this evil? Because someone does not believe the same thing you do, or hold your same beliefs, it does not mean that they are evil.

                                    Maybe they are legitimate concerns, but it would be interesting to have you provide specifics.

                                    And please don't respond with, "if you dont know, then I am not going to waste my time telling you!" 55555555

                                    (And the same thing goes for those who are against Trump. Larry has a good point that sometimes biases make it difficult to see past that)

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl
                                      21 Apr 2020, 13:25

                                      @Larry said in Should Congress go back?:

                                      I just know the evil that is represented by the Left today

                                      Larry, what exactly is this evil? Because someone does not believe the same thing you do, or hold your same beliefs, it does not mean that they are evil.

                                      Maybe they are legitimate concerns, but it would be interesting to have you provide specifics.

                                      And please don't respond with, "if you dont know, then I am not going to waste my time telling you!" 55555555

                                      (And the same thing goes for those who are against Trump. Larry has a good point that sometimes biases make it difficult to see past that)

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                                      wrote on 21 Apr 2020, 13:31 last edited by
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                                      @taiwan_girl said in Should Congress go back?:

                                      @Larry said in Should Congress go back?:

                                      I just know the evil that is represented by the Left today

                                      Larry, what exactly is this evil? Because someone does not believe the same thing you do, or hold your same beliefs, it does not mean that they are evil.

                                      Maybe they are legitimate concerns, but it would be interesting to have you provide specifics.

                                      And please don't respond with, "if you dont know, then I am not going to waste my time telling you!" 55555555

                                      (And the same thing goes for those who are against Trump. Larry has a good point that sometimes biases make it difficult to see past that)

                                      I believe communism is evil. I believe much of socialism, is communism light. I believe the Democrat Party, especially the coastal dems, have a very strong wish for socialism and central control.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        21 Apr 2020, 13:31

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Should Congress go back?:

                                        @Larry said in Should Congress go back?:

                                        I just know the evil that is represented by the Left today

                                        Larry, what exactly is this evil? Because someone does not believe the same thing you do, or hold your same beliefs, it does not mean that they are evil.

                                        Maybe they are legitimate concerns, but it would be interesting to have you provide specifics.

                                        And please don't respond with, "if you dont know, then I am not going to waste my time telling you!" 55555555

                                        (And the same thing goes for those who are against Trump. Larry has a good point that sometimes biases make it difficult to see past that)

                                        I believe communism is evil. I believe much of socialism, is communism light. I believe the Democrat Party, especially the coastal dems, have a very strong wish for socialism and central control.

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                                        wrote on 21 Apr 2020, 13:49 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in Should Congress go back?:

                                        I believe communism is evil

                                        Not to be too nitpick, but evil in what way? What is your definition of evil?

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl
                                          21 Apr 2020, 13:25

                                          @Larry said in Should Congress go back?:

                                          I just know the evil that is represented by the Left today

                                          Larry, what exactly is this evil? Because someone does not believe the same thing you do, or hold your same beliefs, it does not mean that they are evil.

                                          Maybe they are legitimate concerns, but it would be interesting to have you provide specifics.

                                          And please don't respond with, "if you dont know, then I am not going to waste my time telling you!" 55555555

                                          (And the same thing goes for those who are against Trump. Larry has a good point that sometimes biases make it difficult to see past that)

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                                          wrote on 21 Apr 2020, 15:42 last edited by
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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Should Congress go back?:

                                          @Larry said in Should Congress go back?:

                                          I just know the evil that is represented by the Left today

                                          Larry, what exactly is this evil? Because someone does not believe the same thing you do, or hold your same beliefs, it does not mean that they are evil.

                                          Maybe they are legitimate concerns, but it would be interesting to have you provide specifics.

                                          And please don't respond with, "if you dont know, then I am not going to waste my time telling you!" 55555555

                                          (And the same thing goes for those who are against Trump. Larry has a good point that sometimes biases make it difficult to see past that)

                                          It's not a matter of someone not believing the same things that I do. There was a time when both parties believed in pretty much the same things, they just differed in what the best way was to achieve it. John F. Kennedy for examp,e, was a Democrat. If he were alive today he would have to be a Republican because not only would he find that he was far to the right and had nothing at all in common with today's democrats, he would find that today's Democrat party wouldn't have him.

                                          But surely you are aware that right and wrong are not subjective. Right and wrong are not matters of differences in beliefs. Believing murder is ok for example, does not make murder right. Unless you can recognize this simple fact, you will never be able to understand why today's left is evil. Next, you will need to see things from the standpoint of an overall trend, not hold up individual people and think "that person is a left winger and he's not evil". With that in mind, here are just a few things that show there is an evil running through the Left:

                                          1. I'm sure you agree that when a person's heart stops beating, they are dead. If a person is dead when their heart stops beating, why do some people believe a person is NOT alive when the heart STARTS beating? The reason is simple - some people are selfish. Oh, they hide behind fuzzy little phrases like "I believe in a woman's right to choose", but the truth is they have several reasons for wanting to legally kill babies. Some want it legal so they don't have to take any responsibility for their own actions. Some defend it because they think it makes them look "enlightened". Either way, their logic is rooted in a broader "evil". You can say "it's a matter of what you believe, and you just don't like it that some believe different than you" but you'd be wrong. Murdering a baby is not a matter of belief. It's a matter of right and wrong. We live in a world where you will go to prison for breaking an eagle's egg, but you'll get government funding to murder your baby. Explain how justifying the murder of babies is not evil.

                                          Next.... when the right protests, we get the Tea Party. They didn't try to physically hurt anyone, cleaned up the grounds when they were done, and argued their case through discussion of the issues. When the Left protests we get Antifa hiding behind masks, beating up people, destroying property, leaving chaos, destruction, and filth in their wake. One wants a better America. The other one wants to destroy America. What motivates these so different sides? One side is evil, one side is not.

                                          There are many more examples, but that SHOULD be enough to get you to understand. I know you want to believe both sides are equal they just "have different beliefs" - but that is a naive notion that hasn't been true for nearly 40 years.

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