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Insult to injury

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @Loki what makes you think there are many people who would like to ride in ambulances when they do not medically need it just because they do not have to pay for it?

    Riding in an ambulance as a patient is not exactly fun. There are a lot of "not fun" things that are free and still there is no explosion of demand for them just because they are free. What makes you think ambulance rides will be different?

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    @axtremus said in Insult to injury:

    @Loki what makes you think there are many people who would like to ride in ambulances when they do not medically need it just because they do not have to pay for it?

    Riding in an ambulance as a patient is not exactly fun. There are a lot of "not fun" things that are free and still there is no explosion of demand for them just because they are free. What makes you think ambulance rides will be different?

    Well, let me tell you how it works and I'll name names and point fingers...

    A previous sheriff of Avoyelles, Bill Belt, was making quite a bit of money housing state prisoners in the parish prison. Bill used some of his profits to subsidize ambulance service in the parish.

    I have seen guys call for an ambulance ride to the ED, to treat a cold. I have seen them calk for an ambulance, because they didn't want to use the gas in their car.

    In fact, they called for ambulances so much, they exhausted the year's budget for ambulance payments in a matter of a couple of months.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

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      • bachophileB bachophile

        Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

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        @bachophile said in Insult to injury:

        Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

        Yeah, a very foreign concept.

        That said, the "free" ambulance model also creates undesirable incentives, such as more and more people who call an ambulance for trivialities.

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        • bachophileB bachophile

          Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

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          @bachophile said in Insult to injury:

          Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

          Different entitlement culture here.

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          • bachophileB bachophile

            Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

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            @bachophile said in Insult to injury:

            Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

            What do you do with a patient who calls an ambulance for a head cold?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @bachophile said in Insult to injury:

              Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

              What do you do with a patient who calls an ambulance for a head cold?

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              @jolly said in Insult to injury:

              @bachophile said in Insult to injury:

              Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

              What do you do with a patient who calls an ambulance for a head cold?

              Or to get a 'free' trip to the store. Yes, this happens here in the Twin Cities. People call an ambulance instead of taking a public bus or a taxi.

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                Easy solution.

                1. Medically necessary? No charge.

                2. You're a stupid human and you waste the time and resources of a Ambulance and its crew, which is akin to pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire? You are arrested and thrown in jail for a few days and given a hefty fine. If you are unable to pay that fine you go to jail.

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                • markM mark

                  Easy solution.

                  1. Medically necessary? No charge.

                  2. You're a stupid human and you waste the time and resources of a Ambulance and its crew, which is akin to pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire? You are arrested and thrown in jail for a few days and given a hefty fine. If you are unable to pay that fine you go to jail.

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                  @mark said in Insult to injury:

                  Easy solution.

                  1. Medically necessary? No charge.

                  2. You're a stupid human and you waste the time and resources of a Ambulance and its crew, which is akin to pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire? You are arrested and thrown in jail for a few days and given a hefty fine. If you are unable to pay that fine you go to jail.

                  You're going to need a bigger boat jail.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @mark said in Insult to injury:

                    Easy solution.

                    1. Medically necessary? No charge.

                    2. You're a stupid human and you waste the time and resources of a Ambulance and its crew, which is akin to pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire? You are arrested and thrown in jail for a few days and given a hefty fine. If you are unable to pay that fine you go to jail.

                    You're going to need a bigger boat jail.

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                    @jolly said in Insult to injury:

                    @mark said in Insult to injury:

                    Easy solution.

                    1. Medically necessary? No charge.

                    2. You're a stupid human and you waste the time and resources of a Ambulance and its crew, which is akin to pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire? You are arrested and thrown in jail for a few days and given a hefty fine. If you are unable to pay that fine you go to jail.

                    You're going to need a bigger boat jail.

                    Maybe short term. Not long term.

                    We could always empty the jails of non-violent drug offenders.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @bachophile said in Insult to injury:

                      Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

                      What do you do with a patient who calls an ambulance for a head cold?

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                      @jolly said in Insult to injury:

                      @bachophile said in Insult to injury:

                      Paying for an ambulance. How quaint.

                      What do you do with a patient who calls an ambulance for a head cold?

                      Yes obviously if it’s a spurious call u can be fined. But honestly doesn’t happen much.

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