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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
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    #3

    Gonna get radical.

    Please love yourself.

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #4

      It’ll be interesting to see how it unfolds. My guess is it’ll atrophy into a GAB or 4chan.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Axtremus
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        OK, Amazon is a big deal when it comes to providing the infrastructure that powers many Internet sites and services. If Amazon Web Services (AWS) disappear one day, I am guessing it will take down at least half of the world's Internet startups with it.

        There are many high-tech companies, especially start-ups, that completely and solely rely on AWS. They have no capability and no plan to "diversity" or "port" their services to another web/server/cloud hosting service. Nobody forces these high-tech companies to structure their businesses this way, but for whatever reasons that make sense only to them, they do.

        Now if anyone think that's enough reason to nationalize or heavily regulate AWS, I will call BS on that. Those individual businesses CHOSE to structure their businesses and services in a manner that makes them rely solely and completely on AWS, they made the decisions that put themselves at the mercy of AWS. They could have done any number of things to NOT be at the mercy of AWS (e.g., maintain their own servers, build their software stacks in a way that allows them to run on various web/cloud hosting services other than AWS, etc.). So I'm not going to have much sympathy for any individual Internet service that has to sustain prolonged service interruptions because they failed to diversify from AWS and AWS kicked them out anyway.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #6

          I wonder if MSFT would take them. Sounds like they’re going to roll their own, though.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I wonder if MSFT would take them. Sounds like they’re going to roll their own, though.

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            Axtremus
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            #7

            @jon-nyc said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

            Sounds like they’re going to roll their own.

            If you think you're running a service that "goes against the world," rolling your own server infrastructure is the only way to go, since you'd expect the world to pressure whichever hosting service you use to shut you down.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #8

              I'm with Ax in part. If the dark web guys can figure it out, the Parler people can figure it out.

              The problem is, this is gay wedding cakes, except hypocritical. Plenty of other radical groups have organized on already established social media platforms with no consequence in terms of their server hosting.

              An optimistic view of all this is that regarding the printing press analogy, it's all part of one large social correction that needed to take place anyway.

              Please love yourself.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #9

                Ah, yes.

                Time to legislate.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Does anyone wonder about the decision by the DOD to choose Microsoft over AWS - when up until President Trump's intervention, it appeared all but certain to go to AWS?

                  "AWS is alleging that procedural errors in and changes to the request for proposal lead to the Department of Defense, as well as U.S. President Donald Trump’s interference, to erroneously award the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure, or JEDI, contract to Microsoft."
                  12.15.20

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #11

                    For the record I think this is 100 times worse than twitter banning Trump and few other nutters.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Jolly
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                      Enjoy!

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #13

                        Excerpt from the letter to Parler.

                        “Over the past several weeks, we’ve reported 98 examples to Parler of posts that clearly encourage and incite violence... It’s clear that Parler does not have an effective process to comply with the AWS terms of service. It also seems that Parler is still trying to determine its position on content moderation,” the letter reads. “Because Parler cannot comply with our terms of service and poses a very real risk to public safety, we plan to suspend Parler’s account effective Sunday, January 10th, at 11:59PM PST.”

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Klaus
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                          #14

                          It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                          That said, I also think this isn't good.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #15

                            They should probably move to IBM or MSFT just to not have to shit down for a week, but then build their own infrastructure anyway.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              jon-nyc
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                              #16

                              Gab own their own shit but then this happens:

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                That said, I also think this isn't good.

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                                Jolly
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                                #17

                                @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                Enjoy!

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                  It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                  That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                  Enjoy!

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                                  Klaus
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                                  #18

                                  @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                  @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                  It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                  That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                  Enjoy!

                                  What do you want me to enjoy?

                                  JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                                  • KlausK Klaus

                                    @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                    @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                    It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                    That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                    Enjoy!

                                    What do you want me to enjoy?

                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    JollyJ Offline
                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                    #19

                                    @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                    @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                    @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                    It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                    That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                    Enjoy!

                                    What do you want me to enjoy?

                                    I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

                                    1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

                                    2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

                                    The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                      @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                      @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                      It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                      That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                      Enjoy!

                                      What do you want me to enjoy?

                                      I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

                                      1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

                                      2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

                                      The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

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                                      Klaus
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                                      @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                      @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                      @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                      @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                      It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                      That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                      Enjoy!

                                      What do you want me to enjoy?

                                      I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

                                      1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

                                      2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

                                      The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

                                      I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

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                                      • KlausK Klaus

                                        @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                        @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                        @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                        @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                        It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                        That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                        Enjoy!

                                        What do you want me to enjoy?

                                        I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

                                        1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

                                        2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

                                        The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

                                        I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

                                        JollyJ Offline
                                        JollyJ Offline
                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #21

                                        @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                        @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                        @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                        @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                        @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                        It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                        That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                        Enjoy!

                                        What do you want me to enjoy?

                                        I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

                                        1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

                                        2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

                                        The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

                                        I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

                                        I'm being somewhat facetious...The defeat of Trump, coupled with the takeover of the Senate by the Dem party, will embolden the Far Left and their fascist bent. I think Big Tech has bought Biden, heart and soul. I also think he is too mentally and physically weak to defend the Center.I

                                        Silicon Valley politics are going to rule, and the Devil take whoever, whatever or whomever they do not approve of.

                                        Lastly, when that is taken into considerarion, maybe Renauda is right in his prognostication.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                          That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                          Enjoy!

                                          What do you want me to enjoy?

                                          I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

                                          1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

                                          2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

                                          The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

                                          I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

                                          I'm being somewhat facetious...The defeat of Trump, coupled with the takeover of the Senate by the Dem party, will embolden the Far Left and their fascist bent. I think Big Tech has bought Biden, heart and soul. I also think he is too mentally and physically weak to defend the Center.I

                                          Silicon Valley politics are going to rule, and the Devil take whoever, whatever or whomever they do not approve of.

                                          Lastly, when that is taken into considerarion, maybe Renauda is right in his prognostication.

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                                          @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                          It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                                          That said, I also think this isn't good.

                                          Enjoy!

                                          What do you want me to enjoy?

                                          I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

                                          1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

                                          2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

                                          The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

                                          I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

                                          I'm being somewhat facetious...The defeat of Trump, coupled with the takeover of the Senate by the Dem party, will embolden the Far Left and their fascist bent. I think Big Tech has bought Biden, heart and soul. I also think he is too mentally and physically weak to defend the Center.I

                                          Silicon Valley politics are going to rule, and the Devil take whoever, whatever or whomever they do not approve of.

                                          Lastly, when that is taken into considerarion, maybe Renauda is right in his prognostication.

                                          .

                                          The far left could gain more actual power, but isn’t there also a chance that moderate ideas could have more space once the “great orange menace” has been removed?

                                          If you believe TDS is a thing, maybe the some of the “D” will disappear with the “T” in power.

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