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  • MikM Mik

    Are justices to recuse themselves because they have friends or family that hold unpopular opinions? Show me what Justice Thomas has DONE that would justify recusal. Near as I can see, all his wife did was express an opinion.

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    George K
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    #20

    @Mik here's the GKSR you were looking for:

    "Justice Elena Kagan did not recuse herself from the Obamacare case, providing the critical vote to uphold it despite having served as President Obama’s solicitor general when the administration was formulating the legal strategy to defend the Affordable Care Act. (See Ed Whelan’s analysis, here.)

    Justice Stephen Breyer has been aptly described as the primary architect of the federal sentencing guidelines. He steered them through Congress in 1984 as the Senate Judiciary Committee’s chief counsel before serving, as a federal appeals court judge, on the Sentencing Commission that created the guidelines. Yet, after being appointed to the high court by President Clinton, Breyer declined to recuse himself when the Supreme Court weighed the constitutionality of the guidelines. Indeed, he wrote a 5-4 majority opinion in 2005 that sustained the guidelines scheme, though declaring it advisory rather than mandatory."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #21

      The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

      If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

        If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

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        George K
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        #22

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

        The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

        See the GKSR comment above. When you have the lawyer who framed Obamacare sitting on the Supreme Court and cast the deciding vote, no one blinked an eye.

        If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

        It's Chinatown Politics.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
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          #23

          Washington is a fishbowl.

          That's why I think it would be good to spread that society out a bit

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

            If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

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            taiwan_girl
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            #24

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

            The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

            If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

            👆

            Trying to say it is "okay" because the other side did it does not make it right.

            People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #25

              I honestly find it hard to believe that the wife of a Supreme Court justice would be sending texts like this to the WH Chief of Staff.

              It's bloody bizarre behaviour. Sure, she's an activist, but if we believe what we read, the lack of awareness is pretty amazing.

              I was only joking

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

                👆

                Trying to say it is "okay" because the other side did it does not make it right.

                People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

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                George K
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                #26

                @taiwan_girl said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

                No, you never justify bad behavior by pointing out someone else's bad behavior.

                But when someone else's bad behavior is ignored, it's difficult to sympathize with the current outrage.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by Mik
                  #27

                  In this case there is no particular evidence I am aware of that comes close to proving he did something inappropriate. This is not so vague in the case of Sotomayor. It has the appearance of quid pro quo.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG George K

                    @taiwan_girl said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                    People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

                    No, you never justify bad behavior by pointing out someone else's bad behavior.

                    But when someone else's bad behavior is ignored, it's difficult to sympathize with the current outrage.

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                    Horace
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                    @George-K said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                    People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

                    No, you never justify bad behavior by pointing out someone else's bad behavior.

                    But when someone else's bad behavior is ignored, it's difficult to sympathize with the current outrage.

                    In politics, where one weighs a personal choice between two acknowledged evils, whataboutism is a perfectly honest and reasonable way to think about things. And if whataboutism happens to render all anecdotal debate moot, because there's always an anecdote to cancel another anecdote, all the better. Those anecdotes are all worthless anyway, trying to make some moralistic point that never held any water to begin with.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      Whenever anybody criticises me for Whataboutism, I just point to other people who use the tactic.

                      I was only joking

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
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                        #30

                        No, we criticize you for Wahhabism. Infidel.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          No, we criticize you for Wahhabism. Infidel.

                          Doctor PhibesD Online
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @Mik said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                          No, we criticize you for Wahhabism. Infidel.

                          You're full of shi'ite.

                          I was only joking

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                            Mik
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                            You have a Sunni disposition, though. For a Wahhabist, anyway.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Jolly
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                              Tell me Moor...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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