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  • H Horace
    9 Jan 2021, 17:14

    @loki said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

    @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

    You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

    Of course not. But his behavior once the violence started is definitely worth studying.

    What would be your description of his behavior since the violence started? I recall an unequivocal speech the night of that day, was there something else to pay attention to?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 17:37 last edited by
    #14

    @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

    unequivocal

    You spelled equivocal wrong.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • H Horace
      9 Jan 2021, 17:20

      @mik said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

      @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

      You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

      Why else would he have encouraged this to happen? What would be the point?

      I know he encouraged the march, but did he encourage illegal encroachment into the Capitol?

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      Mik
      wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 17:37 last edited by
      #15

      @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

      @mik said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

      @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

      You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

      Why else would he have encouraged this to happen? What would be the point?

      I know he encouraged the march, but did he encourage illegal encroachment into the Capitol?

      No, he did not, but he encouraged them to march to the Capitol. Again, what was he expecting? It is difficult to know what was in his mind.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        9 Jan 2021, 17:37

        @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

        @mik said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

        @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

        You think Trump was imagining a successful violent overthrow? How would that have worked?

        Why else would he have encouraged this to happen? What would be the point?

        I know he encouraged the march, but did he encourage illegal encroachment into the Capitol?

        No, he did not, but he encouraged them to march to the Capitol. Again, what was he expecting? It is difficult to know what was in his mind.

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        Renauda
        wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 17:50 last edited by Renauda 1 Sept 2021, 18:04
        #16

        @mik

        My hunch is that it never crossed Trump's mind that his cheer leading rhetoric could motivate elements in the crowd to ignite a riot on the Capitol. Yet another aspect of what makes Trump come across as a loose cannon to people who find his enthusiastic boosterism repugnant.

        Elbows up!

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        • J jon-nyc
          9 Jan 2021, 17:37

          @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

          unequivocal

          You spelled equivocal wrong.

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          Horace
          wrote on 9 Jan 2021, 17:51 last edited by
          #17

          @jon-nyc said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

          @horace said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

          unequivocal

          You spelled equivocal wrong.

          yeah but fair and objective to you is hatred for all things Trump. I recall he was unequivocal about the condemnation of anybody breaking the law. Feel free to post a transcript if you believe it proves me wrong. I am going by memory having listened to it once.

          Education is extremely important.

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            George K
            wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:41 last edited by
            #18

            McCarthy:

            https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/the-smearing-of-clarence-thomas/

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Mik
              wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:44 last edited by
              #19

              Are justices to recuse themselves because they have friends or family that hold unpopular opinions? Show me what Justice Thomas has DONE that would justify recusal. Near as I can see, all his wife did was express an opinion.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • M Mik
                30 Mar 2022, 12:44

                Are justices to recuse themselves because they have friends or family that hold unpopular opinions? Show me what Justice Thomas has DONE that would justify recusal. Near as I can see, all his wife did was express an opinion.

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                George K
                wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 12:48 last edited by
                #20

                @Mik here's the GKSR you were looking for:

                "Justice Elena Kagan did not recuse herself from the Obamacare case, providing the critical vote to uphold it despite having served as President Obama’s solicitor general when the administration was formulating the legal strategy to defend the Affordable Care Act. (See Ed Whelan’s analysis, here.)

                Justice Stephen Breyer has been aptly described as the primary architect of the federal sentencing guidelines. He steered them through Congress in 1984 as the Senate Judiciary Committee’s chief counsel before serving, as a federal appeals court judge, on the Sentencing Commission that created the guidelines. Yet, after being appointed to the high court by President Clinton, Breyer declined to recuse himself when the Supreme Court weighed the constitutionality of the guidelines. Indeed, he wrote a 5-4 majority opinion in 2005 that sustained the guidelines scheme, though declaring it advisory rather than mandatory."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 13:02 last edited by
                  #21

                  The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                  If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

                  I was only joking

                  G taiwan_girlT 2 Replies Last reply 30 Mar 2022, 13:04
                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                    30 Mar 2022, 13:02

                    The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                    If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

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                    George K
                    wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 13:04 last edited by
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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                    The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                    See the GKSR comment above. When you have the lawyer who framed Obamacare sitting on the Supreme Court and cast the deciding vote, no one blinked an eye.

                    If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

                    It's Chinatown Politics.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 14:24 last edited by
                      #23

                      Washington is a fishbowl.

                      That's why I think it would be good to spread that society out a bit

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                        30 Mar 2022, 13:02

                        The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                        If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 17:07 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                        The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                        If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

                        👆

                        Trying to say it is "okay" because the other side did it does not make it right.

                        People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 17:17 last edited by
                          #25

                          I honestly find it hard to believe that the wife of a Supreme Court justice would be sending texts like this to the WH Chief of Staff.

                          It's bloody bizarre behaviour. Sure, she's an activist, but if we believe what we read, the lack of awareness is pretty amazing.

                          I was only joking

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl
                            30 Mar 2022, 17:07

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                            The point of recusing oneself is to ensure that justice is seen to be done, and that there is no question of personal bias.

                            If you honestly don't believe this situation smells a bit fishy, then I don't know what to say. Maybe get some olfactory testing done?

                            👆

                            Trying to say it is "okay" because the other side did it does not make it right.

                            People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

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                            George K
                            wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 17:27 last edited by
                            #26

                            @taiwan_girl said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                            People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

                            No, you never justify bad behavior by pointing out someone else's bad behavior.

                            But when someone else's bad behavior is ignored, it's difficult to sympathize with the current outrage.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 19:22 last edited by Mik
                              #27

                              In this case there is no particular evidence I am aware of that comes close to proving he did something inappropriate. This is not so vague in the case of Sotomayor. It has the appearance of quid pro quo.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • G George K
                                30 Mar 2022, 17:27

                                @taiwan_girl said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                                People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

                                No, you never justify bad behavior by pointing out someone else's bad behavior.

                                But when someone else's bad behavior is ignored, it's difficult to sympathize with the current outrage.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 19:28 last edited by
                                #28

                                @George-K said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                                People here link to stories about people robbing, or something. If the next person who robs something uses the excuse that previous people have done it, does that excuse their behavior?

                                No, you never justify bad behavior by pointing out someone else's bad behavior.

                                But when someone else's bad behavior is ignored, it's difficult to sympathize with the current outrage.

                                In politics, where one weighs a personal choice between two acknowledged evils, whataboutism is a perfectly honest and reasonable way to think about things. And if whataboutism happens to render all anecdotal debate moot, because there's always an anecdote to cancel another anecdote, all the better. Those anecdotes are all worthless anyway, trying to make some moralistic point that never held any water to begin with.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 19:42 last edited by
                                  #29

                                  Whenever anybody criticises me for Whataboutism, I just point to other people who use the tactic.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 19:43 last edited by
                                    #30

                                    No, we criticize you for Wahhabism. Infidel.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      30 Mar 2022, 19:43

                                      No, we criticize you for Wahhabism. Infidel.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 19:45 last edited by
                                      #31

                                      @Mik said in Leftists Target Justice Thomas After Wife's Alleged Posts on Capitol Protest:

                                      No, we criticize you for Wahhabism. Infidel.

                                      You're full of shi'ite.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 20:11 last edited by
                                        #32

                                        You have a Sunni disposition, though. For a Wahhabist, anyway.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 30 Mar 2022, 23:30 last edited by
                                          #33

                                          Tell me Moor...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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